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Turkey’s Latest Jihad on Christian Armenians

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Far from being repentant of the Armenian Genocide, Turkey, under the leadership of Prime Minister Erdogan, is again, like its Ottoman forbear, targeting Armenians; is again causing their death and dislocation.

Turkey-sponsored jihadis pose with Islamic flag in conquered Christian Armenian town of Kessab

In the early morning hours of March 21, al-Qaeda linked Islamic jihadis crossed into Syrian territory from the Turkish border and launched a jihad on the Christian/Armenian town of Kessab.   Among other thing, “Snipers targeted the civilian population and launched mortar attacks on the town and the surrounding villages.”  Reportedly eighty people were killed.

The jihadis later made a video touring the devastated town.  No translation is needed, as the main phrase shouted throughout is Islam’s triumphant war cry, “Allahu Akbar” (or, according to Sen. John McCain’s translation, “thank God”).

Eyewitnesses say the jihadis crossed the Turkish border into Syria, “openly passing through Turkish military barracks. According to Turkish media reports, the attackers carried their injured back to Turkey for treatment in the town of Yayladagi.”

About two-thousand Armenians were evacuated to safer areas in neighboring Basit and Latakia.  Several of these families are currently living inside the churches of these towns. Ten to fifteen families with members too elderly to flee remained in Kessab, their fate currently unknown.

Syrian troops launched a counteroffensive, but al-Qaeda linked jihadis “once again entered the town of Kessab, took the remaining Armenian families hostage, desecrated the town’s three Armenian churches, pillaging local residences and occupying the town and surrounding villages.”

Reports further indicate that “the attacks of the al-Qaeda linked al-Nusra organization and the Islamic Front was supported with artillery fire from Turkish artillery units.  A Syrian MIG-23 war plane which attended to the operation towards the terror groups was shot down by Turkish Air Forces on 23 March.”

Bashar al-Assad naturally denounced before the United Nations Turkey’s support for terrorists—even as some European leaders, such as Denmark’s Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt, were praising Turkey for its supposedly increased democracy and human rights,  and supporting the Islamic nation’s inclusion into the European Union, indifferent to the fact that Erdogan banned Twitter in Turkey after tweets exposed his government’s corruptions.

Nor are Armenians and others missing the significance of Turkey’s role.  In a written statement, the Armenian National Committee-International condemned Turkey’s active role in aiding and abetting Christian persecuting jihadi groups:

For months, we have warned the international community of the imminent threat posed by extremist foreign fighters against the Christian minority population in Syria.  These vicious and unprompted attacks against the Armenian-populated town and villages of Kessab are the latest examples of this violence, actively encouraged by neighboring Turkey. We call upon all states with any influence in the Syrian conflict to use all available means to stop these attacks against the peaceful civilian population of Kessab, to allow them to return to their homes in safety and security. In the last one hundred years, this is the third time that the Armenians are being forced to leave Kessab and in all three cases, Turkey is the aggressor or on the side of the aggressors [emphasis added].

On March 24,  Samvel Farmanyan, a member of the Armenian National Assembly, traveled to Syria to meet with Kessab’s dislocated Armenians: “I should say the impression was shocking,” he said.  “The situation is like the one we have read about in textbooks and literature about the Armenian Genocide, in the memories of Genocide survivors….  These are tragic events, which cannot but bring forth obvious parallels with the events of 100 years ago—the Armenian Genocide.”

Displaced Kessab Armenians crowd and seek shelter in neighboring Latakia church

Video interviews with the recently dislocated Armenians of Syria further document this sentiment.   One elderly man says “We’ve been here 97 years since they slaughtered us in Turkey.  These al-Qaeda ‘rebel’ groups are the grandsons of Abdul Hamid” (the Ottoman sultan who committed the first systematic genocide of Armenians).

Nor were these early massacres limited to Armenians but rather targeted Christians in general.  As one Syrian-American woman points out in writing to me just now: “The Hamidian Massacres (1894-1896) led to the mass exodus of Christians from the Levant to the USA. My grandfather was one of those who fled persecution. His father was shot, by an Ottoman Turk, in front of their ancestral home. Seven children were left fatherless. My grandfather, the eldest son, left Syria, and traveled as an indentured man, through Mexico, to find freedom and safety in the USA. The entire family eventually joined him.”

Such is the continuity and interconnectivity of history.  Due to the Ottoman Empire’s ethnic cleansing campaign and mass dislocation of Armenians, some of the latter who survived ended up in places like Kessab.  Today, due to modern Turkey’s support for Islamic jihadis, the Armenians of Kessab are once again being killed and displaced.

Years, decades, and centuries go by; names, narratives and rhetoric change; utopian ideals and materialistic rationalizations become ubiquitous.  Yet the same story, the same enmity—Turkish to Armenian, or more distilled yet, Muslim to Christian—lives on, even if in different contexts and formats.

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  • Martin Grimes

    It is spreading. The murderers are a deceitful rabble terrorizing unarmed civilians in an unprovoked attack. The western elite will spin this one to their own demise! Assad
    is saying it the way it is. I pray for the Armenian people! The murderous Muslims
    never leave them alone. According to western thinking I am a racist for saying
    so. Then so be it! MURDEROUS MUSLIM BANDITS!!!!

  • dia61

    Another brilliant article, Raymond. I wonder how may of us would have known about this latest tragedy has it not been for your reporting.
    I think that we should all keep in mind that 100+ years ago, during the time when Levantine Christians ( Syrian Antiochian and Greek Orthodox, Lebanese Maronite Catholics, Armenians, for example) escaped persecution, during the final days of the collapsing Ottoman Empire, the United States of America was not aiding and abetting Islamist jihad. And, to the granddaughter of the persecuted Syrian Christian gentleman, I’d like to point out that her grandfather had a very different USA to emigrate to. Like so many of our immigrant ancestors, the USA offered safe haven for many people to begin new lives. A few months back , Syrians were banned from entering this country. The restrictions have since lightened up a bit, but it is still extremely difficult, if not impossible ,to get an immigrant visa.
    Our ancestors were far luckier than today’s refugees. What is to become of today’s refugee population?
    My prayers are with them. I have to believe that God is watching.

    • Larry

      GOD IS WATCHING?

      I THOUGHT YOUR GOD WAS OMNIPOTENT!

      The universal religious belief that God is omnipotent and omniscient

      IT SEEMS TO ME HE IS IMPOTENT & HAS BEEN FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!

      HE IS MORE LIKE A COMFORT BLANKET, THAN SOMETHING REAL!

      IF HE WAS REAL, THEN HE SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR DERELICTION OF CARE FOR HIS PEOPLE.

      MORE LIKE A SADIST, THEN ONE WHO LOVES HIS PEOPLE!

      • dia61

        I have to believe that God is watching.
        The part of the sentence that you didn’t “get” was “I have to believe”.
        It goes to my faith. My faith has NOTHING to do with you or your opinions. Get it now? Stay on point, Larry. The article was about innocent people being displaced and losing their lives.
        End of conversation. End of reply.

        • Larry

          “I have to believe that God is watching.”

          WHAT’S THIS?
          A F–KING SPECTATOR SPORT FOR THE GODS!
          WATCHING HUMAN BEINGS MASSACRED & NOT DOING A THING ABOUT IT?
          YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE HOMER SIMPSON AS YOUR GOD!

          • Mikasi

            What you don’t understand about God is his gift of Free Will. Yes God is watching and at death He will Judge. A concept beyond your ken. Evidently you expect God to create a perfect world for you. Instead of spewing ignorance and swearing like a whiney baby, why don’t you educate yourself and find ways to put islam down. But I suspect you get your kicks this way.

          • Larry

            YO BRO,

            ISLAM: HAJJ PILGRIMAGE INCOMPLETE WITHOUT HOT CAMEL SEX

            Sunni Imam Abu Bakar al-Kashani (d. 587 H) records
            in his authority work ‘Badaye al-Sanae’ Volume 2 page 216:

            ولو وطئ بهيمة لا يفسد حجه

            ولو وطئ بهيمة لا يفسد حجه

            “If he had sexual intercourse with an animal that will not make his hajj void”

            HOT MOHAMMEDAN SEX

            Here are the Muslim countries and how they placed in the top five world ranking of various bestiality-related internet search terms:

            Pig Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Egypt (No. 2) Saudi Arabia (No. 3)

            Donkey Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 3) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)

            Dog Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Saudi Arabia (No. 3)

            Cat Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 2) Egypt (No. 3) Saudi
            Arabia (No. 4)

            Horse Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Turkey (No. 3)

            Cow Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 2) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)

            Goat Sex: Pakistan (No. 1)

            Animal Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Morocco (No. 2) Iran (No. 4)
            Egypt (No. 5)

            Snake Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Malaysia (No. 3) Indonesia (No. 4) Egypt (No. 5)

            Monkey Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Indonesia (No. 3) Malaysia (No. 4)

            Bear Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Saudi Arabia (No. 2)

            Elephant Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Egypt (No. 3) United Arab
            Emirates (No. 4) Malaysia (No. 5)

            Fox Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 1) Turkey (No. 4)

            NO WONDER CLINTON, BUSH & OBAMA LOVE ISLAM!

    • Mikasi

      It is difficult for Christians Syrian or otherwise to get in. This administration has relaxed, without the approval of Congress, the requirements for muslim refugees to get in. They now can have had “minimal” records of supporting islamists. All countries are complicit in their silence, but Obama backs the muslim brotherhood and jihadists everywhere. He has made a mess of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Egypt and is looking to normalize relations with Sudan where his brother is influential. The west is becoming a safe haven for terrorists. And they come up through S. America, through Mexico and across our open southern border.

      • Arius1071

        The America in 1915 that tried to help Armenians and other Christians, that told the Young Turks that its ambassador represented 97 million Christians, that America no longer exists. Only Russia is trying to help Christians in the region; America help Muslims rebuild Mosques. Go to hell, America.

  • Larry

    LATEST (JEWISH) JIHAD ON CHRISTIAN ARMENIANS

    There is the book “Inner Folds of the Ottoman Revolution” written by Mevlan Zadeh Rifat in Turkish and published in 1929, the author, a pro-sultan Turk, claims that the
    “Armenian genocide was decided in August 1910 and October 1911, by a Young
    Turk committee composed entirely of displaced Balkan Jews in the format of a
    syncretist Jewish-Muslim sect which included Talaat, Enver, Behaeddin Shakir,
    Jemal, and Nizam posting as Muslims. It met in the Rothschild-funded Grand
    Orient loge/hotel of Salonika.”
    Syncretism means a combination of different forms of belief or practice;
    Masonism fits that description. As the masons started the 1897 revolution in France with the cry “liberty, fraternity, equality,” Young Turks used the same slogan in their revolution of 1908.

    A 1994 conference paper/lecture by Joseph Brewda of Schiller Institute entitled “Palmerson launches Young Turks to permanently control Middle East” claims the founder of the Young Turks to be a certain Jew by the name of Emmanuel Carasso. He states: “Carasso set up the Young Turk secret society in the 1890s in Salonika, then part of Turkey, and now part of Greece.
    Carasso was also the grand master of an Italian Masonic lodge there, called
    ‘Macedonia Resurrected.’ The lodge was the headquarters of the Young Turks, and
    all the top Young Turk leadership were members.”

    Further on Mr. Brewda says: “During the Young Turk regime, Carasso continued to play a leading role. He met with the sultan, to tell him that he was overthrown. He was in charge of putting the sultan under house arrest. He ran the Young Turk intelligence network in the Balkans. And he was in charge of all food supplies in the empire during World War I.” It is ironic that four centuries after the Turkish sultans welcomed the expelled European Jews into Turkey, certain Jews belonging to secret societies and to Zionism will kick the sultan out of power early in 20th century, destroy the Ottoman Empire, and celebrated their victory by massacring by proxy almost the whole Christian Armenian people, one million and half Armenians; half million Greeks; and half million Christian Assyrians & Armenians.

    In 1982, after the Israeli army conquered Lebanon, they celebrated their victory by massacring by proxy children and women in the Palestinian camp of Shattila, in Lebanon, by allowing Lebanese Phalanger militia fighters to move into the camp for two days and murder its inhabitants. Eighty percent of the camp were killed. Nearly
    all of the dead were old men, women and children and all of them had been unarmed. Not one gun, not one knife was found in their possession, claims a
    Palestinian witness.

    All this according to the percepts of the Jewish Talmud, which encourages Jews to kill, directly or indirectly, by sayings like:

    “Every Jew who spills the blood of the godless, is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God.” Talmud: Bammidber Raba c21 & Jalkut 772. In the eyes of Talmudists all non-Jews are godless. And “It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.” Talmud: Coschen
    Hamischpat, Hagah 425. Very neatly put sentence indeed.

    THE JEWS HATE ACCORDING TO THE TALMUD

    The sources I will be using are from the Babylonian Talmud.
    Many Jews will tell you that this is not a good source for information as it
    has been corrupted by those who wish to destroy the Jews as well as the nation
    of Israel.
    The Babylonian Talmud is the most widely used and quoted version of the Talmud to date. It is also considered to be the most accurate Talmud we have. With this in mind, how can one say that such a book is a fake or has be corrupted?

    The Talmud is vied by any observant Jew to be of equal status with the Torah.
    For, it is said, ‘you can not have Torah without Talmud and can not have Talmud
    without Torah’ The Talmud is the oral tradition of the Jewish people. It is also know as the spoken Torah.

    From the Talmud the Jews have taken many of their actions towards each other
    and those around them. In point of fact, they little skull cap that the Jews wear is not found in Torah. No! Rather, it is found in the Talmud. The works that a Jew can not perform on the Sabbath are not listed one by one in the Torah, they are however listed in great detail in the Talmud.

    As you can see, the Talmud is not just a book to fill the shelves of Jewish homes and schools. Rather, it is the book that is used to teach the Jewish way of life. It is the book that has molded the Jewish people into who and what they are today.

    According to Jewish thought, there are two classes of people in society; the Jew and the non-Jew. The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish peoples, as “Gentiles”, “Goyim”. Let’s see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority, i.e. those who are not part of Jahve’s “Chosen
    People”

    “The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts.”

    Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

    “The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew.”

    Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

    “Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form.”

    Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

    “A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal.”

    Coschen hamischpat 405

    “The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs.”

    Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

    “Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.”

    Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

    “If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog.”

    Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

    “If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: “God will replace ‘your loss’, just as if one of his oxen or asses had died”.”

    Jore dea 377, 1

    “Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals.”

    Talmud Sanhedrin 74b

    “It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile.”

    Sepher ikkarim III c 25

    “It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.”

    Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

    “A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands.”

    Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

    “Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God.”

    Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

    “The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud…” “Babylonian Talmud”, published by the Boston Talmud Society, p. XII

    • Mikasi

      Ignorant propaganda. hitler would have loved you. Certainly muslims are grateful for your contribution to the oldest lies around. You are like those who “quote” from the old testament as proof that Christians are evil. Like I said, you get your kicks out of bringing trash to a site where know one will believe you. I’m sure you do the same elsewhere.

      • dia61

        Bingo. The “religion of peace” REALLY hates the Jews.
        Good old Larry is either trolling on his own accord, or he’s a tool…..
        I’m a big fan of Raymond’s because he’s an honest scholar, he has integrity, and he is consistent. This is NOT a trash site.
        Alinsky “rules” don’t phase me and I hope that everyone understands that the best way to deal with the “Larry’s” of the world is to ignore them.

      • Larry

        THE JEW:

        Welcome to the Mossad. Its full name is Ha
        Mossad, le Modiyn ve le Tafkidim Mayuhadim [the Institute
        for Intelligence and Special Operations]. Our motto is:
        ‘By way of deception, thou shalt do war.’

        THE ARAB:

        Bukhari (52:269) – “The Prophet said, ‘War is deceit.’”
        The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad’s men after he “guaranteed” them safe passage.

        AM I BEING ANTISEMITIC?

        THEY BOTH ARE SEMITIC & THEY BOTH ARE LIARS!

        ARE YOU A SEMITE?

        OR ARE YOU A FOOLED GOYIM/INFIDEL?

        ISAAC & ISHMAEL ARE BROTHERS!

        ISRAEL & SAUDI ARABIA TOGETHER!

        OPEN YOUR EYES!

    • Mikasi

      I should have recognized larrythesackless from a previous article. I will in the future. You aren’t worth it.

    • SemiahmooWR

      Your write-up is plagiarism and was taken from http://rense.com/general64/genoc.htm

      • Larry

        TYPO!

        I MUST HAVE FORGOTTEN TO ADD THE SOURSE!

        GOOD DOGGY!

        BOW WOW!

        • pitFlyz

          You never add the source.

          • Larry

            HEAR O ISRAEL THE LORD IS ……A VOLCANO!!!

            “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!

            Deuteronomy 6:4-9

            Nahum 1:5-6 The mountains quake at him, and the
            hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks
            are thrown down by him.

            WAS THE GOD OF MOSES A VOLCANO?

            YES! GOD – YHWH/MOLOCH/BAAL/ALLAH WAS A
            VOLCANO-VOLCANIC ACTIVITY!!

            Exodus 3:12 And God said, “I will be with you. And this
            will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain.”

            Exodus 13:21 By day the LORD went ahead of them in a pillar of cloud to guide them on their way and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light, so that they could travel by day or night.

            Exodus 15:7 In the greatness of your majesty you threw down those who opposed you. You unleashed your burning anger; it consumed them like stubble.

            Exodus 19:18 Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, and the whole mountain trembled violently.

            Exodus 24:17 To the Israelites the glory of the LORD looked like a consuming fire on top of the mountain.

            Exodus: 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he
            thought to do unto his people.

            Exodus 40:38 So the cloud of the LORD was over the tabernacle by day, and fire was in the cloud by night,
            in the sight of all the Israelites during all their travels.

            Leviticus 9:24 Fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed the burnt offering and the fat portions on the altar. And when all the people saw it, they shouted for joy and fell facedown.

            Leviticus 10:2 So fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed them, and they died before the LORD.

            Leviticus 10:6 Then Moses said to Aaron and his sons Eleazar and Ithamar, “Do not let your hair become unkempt and do not tear your clothes, or you will die and the LORD will be angry with the whole community. But your relatives, all the Israelites, may mourn for those the LORD has destroyed by fire.

            Numbers 11:1 Now the people complained about their hardships in the hearing of the LORD, and when he heard them his anger was aroused. Then fire from the LORD burned among them and consumed some of the outskirts of the camp.

            Numbers 11:3 So that place was called Taberah, because fire from the LORD had burned among them.

            Numbers 14:14 And they will tell the inhabitants of this land about it. They have already heard that you, LORD, are with these people and that you, LORD, have been seen face to face, that your cloud stays over them, and that you go before them in a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night.

            Numbers 16:35 And fire came out from the LORD and consumed the 250 men who were offering the incense.

            Numbers 26:10 The earth opened its mouth and swallowed them along with Korah, whose followers died when the fire
            devoured the 250 men. And they served as a warning sign.

            Deuteronomy 1:33 who went ahead of you on your journey, in fire by night and in a cloud by day, to search out places for you to camp and to show you the way you should go.

            Deuteronomy 4:11 You came near and stood at the foot of the mountain while it blazed with fire to the very heavens, with black clouds and deep darkness.

            Deuteronomy 4:12 Then the LORD spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice.

            Deuteronomy 4:15 You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully.

            Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.

            Deuteronomy 4:33 Has any other people heard the voice of God speaking out of fire, as you have, and lived?

            Deuteronomy 4:36 From heaven he made you hear his voice to discipline you. On earth he showed you his
            great fire, and you heard his words from out of the fire.

            Deuteronomy 5:4 The LORD spoke to you face to face out of the fire on the mountain.

            Deuteronomy 5:5 At that time I stood between the LORD and you to declare to you the word of the LORD, because you were afraid of the fire and did not go up the mountain.

            Deuteronomy 5:22 These are the commandments the LORD
            proclaimed in a loud voice to your whole assembly there on the mountain from out of the fire, the cloud and the deep darkness; and he added nothing more. Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me.

            Deuteronomy 5:23 When you heard the voice out of the darkness, while the mountain was ablaze with fire,
            all the leaders of your tribes and your elders came to me.

            Deuteronomy 5:24 And you said, “The LORD our God has shown us his glory and his majesty, and we have heard his voice from the fire. Today we have seen that a person
            can live even if God speaks with them.

            Deuteronomy 5:25 But now, why should we die? This great fire will consume us, and we will die if we hear the voice of the LORD our God any longer.

            Deuteronomy 5:26 For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived?

            Deuteronomy 9:3 But be assured today that the LORD your God is the one who goes across ahead of you like a devouring fire. He will destroy them; he will subdue them before you. And you will drive them out and annihilate them quickly, as the LORD has promised you.

            Deuteronomy 9:10 The LORD gave me two stone tablets inscribed by the finger of God. On them were all the commandments the LORD proclaimed to you on the mountain out of the fire, on the day of the assembly.

            Deuteronomy 9:15 So I turned and went down from the mountain while it was ablaze with fire. And the two tablets of the covenant were in my hands.

            Deuteronomy 10:4 The LORD wrote on these tablets what he had written before, the Ten Commandments he had proclaimed to you on the mountain, out of the fire, on the day of the assembly. And the LORD gave them to me.

            Deuteronomy 18:16 For this is what you asked of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, “Let us not hear the voice of the LORD our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die.”

            Deuteronomy 33:2 He said: “The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes.

            2 Samuel 22:9 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.

          • pitFlyz

            For hating Jews so much, you sure do seem to favor the old testament.

          • Larry

            YO HOMER,

            DESCRIBE TO THE WORLD WHAT “YOU” THINK IS A JEW!

          • pitFlyz

            Oh that’s easy. Since they are such a diverse group, and I don’t want to confuse the religion with the ethnicity, nationality or the lifestyle, I’ll cut the B.S. The Jews are people that you, Adolf Hitler, and most hate groups on Southern Poverty Law Center’s website Hate. Sometimes they group them together with Gays, Blacks, Mexicans and Middle Easterners in their pursuit of an “ideal” nation.

          • Larry

            YO HOMER,

            Jesus of Nazareth was a Jew, but he wasn’t a Talmudic Jew!
            Clowns like you would say he hated Pharisees & Sadducees, because he was constantly debating with them. Because of your ignorance of what is really going on throughout the Gospel narrative, you give us your Homer
            interpretation of what you think of those who criticise TALMUDIC JUDAISM.
            You attempt to use smear tactics to drown out the Truth!
            You are pathetic!

            TALMUDIC JEWS HATE JESUS OF NAZARETH!

            Unless you understand why Jesus of Nazareth gave this warning, you will NEVER understand why Talmudic Jews hate him so much:

            “Beware the leaven of the Pharisees……………….” (Matthew 16:6)

            If you study Matthew ch 15, ch 19 & ch 23 plus John 8 you will begin to understand that Jesus had a major problem with the Oral Tradition aka The Traditions of the Elders (of Zion), which we have today in published form as the Jewish Babylonian Talmud (35vols).

            It is a well known ploy, that if you have a problem with someone in an organization, you promote them up & out of the way. Talmudic Jews had a major problem with Jesus of Nazareth & his teachings on the Oral Tradition, so they got one of their numbers to “convert” & distort the Message of Jesus of Nazareth (Galatians ch 1 & 2; 2 Corinthians ch 11). Jesus of Nazareth chose 12 Apostles & none of them were Saul of Tarsus! Even when Judas was to be replaced, he wasn’t chosen to take his place. Saul of Tarsus was a
            Pharisee & a false prophet & opened the door for Talmudic Jews to enter the Church & destroy it (Romans ch 11, ch 12 & ch 13.

            And here is the verse where Jesus of Nazareth is promoted out of the way, so that the Pharisee can take over the Church & preach the “gospel” which has caused so much trouble for true followers of Jesus.

            2 Corinthians 5:16

            Amplified Bible (AMP)

            16 Consequently, from now on we estimate and regard no one from a [purely] human point of view [in terms of natural standards of value]. [No] even though we once did estimate Christ from a human viewpoint and as a man, yet now [we
            have such knowledge of Him that] we know Him no longer [in terms of the flesh].

            The result?

            Jesus is promoted to Godhood & his Message is lost sight
            of, because of all the arguments concerning the Deity of Christ. This suited the Talmudic Jews in the Church, because they were masters of speculation and got stupid Christians arguing about things, instead of preaching & teaching the Message of Jesus, which was summed up in these 2 Commandments:

            Matthew 22:36-40

            36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”

            37 Jesus said unto him, “‘Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.’

            38 This is the first and great commandment.

            39 And the second is like unto it: ‘Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.’

            40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

            Matthew 19:13-24

            To Enter God’s Kingdom

            13-15 One day children were brought to Jesus in the hope that he would lay hands on them and pray over them. The disciples shooed them off. But Jesus intervened: “Let the children alone, don’t prevent them from coming to me.
            God’s kingdom is made up of people like these.” After laying hands on them, he left.

            16 Another day, a man stopped Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

            17 Jesus said, “Why do you question me about what’s good? God is the One who is good. If you want to enter the life of God, just do what he tells you.”

            18-19 The man asked, “What in particular?”

            Jesus said, “Don’t murder, don’t commit adultery, don’t steal, don’t lie, honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as you do yourself.”

            20 The young man said, “I’ve done all that. What’s left?”

            21 “If you want to give it all you’ve got,” Jesus replied, “go sell your possessions; give everything to the poor. All your wealth will then be in heaven. Then come follow me.”

            22 That was the last thing the young man expected to hear. And so, crestfallen, he walked away. He was holding on tight to a lot of things, and he couldn’t bear to let go.

            23-24 As he watched him go, Jesus told his disciples, “Do you have any idea how difficult it is for the rich to enter God’s kingdom? Let me tell you, it’s easier to gallop a camel through a needle’s eye than for the rich to enter
            God’s kingdom.”

            This was the Message that Jesus preached & taught his Disciples, but his Message was hijacked & Romanism was the result!

            So let us look at the Oral Tradition & see why Jesus CONDEMNED it:

            JEWS & BESTIALITY

            Although Moses commanded that if a woman have intercourse with a beast, both should be killed (Leviticus 20:16), and that a priest must not marry a harlot or woman who is profane (Leviticus. 21:7), the Talmud teaches that “unnatural intercourse does not cause a woman to be forbidden to marry a High Priest,” since then “you will find no woman eligible … .” (from the Talmud book of Yebamoth, Folios 59a-59b)

            Leviticus 20:16

            16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

            Leviticus 21:7

            7 They shall not take a wife that is a whore, or profane; neither shall they take a woman put away from her husband: for he is holy unto his God.

            THREE YEAR OLD BRIDES

            When Jesus of Nazareth accused the Pharisees of His day of being Satan’s spiritual children, He fully realized what they were capable of. Second century Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism’s very greatest rabbis and a creator of
            Kabbalah, sanctioned pedophilia — permitting molestation [raping] of baby girls even younger than three! He proclaimed, “A proselyte who is under the age of
            three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.” (1) Subsequent rabbis refer to ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia as “halakah”, or binding Jewish law. (2) Has ben Yohai, child rape advocate, been disowned by modern Jews?
            Hardly. Today, in ben Yohai’s hometown of Meron, Israel, tens of thousands of orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews gather annually for days and nights of singing and dancing in his memory.

            References to pedophilia abound in the Talmud. They occupy considerable sections of Treatises Kethuboth and Yebamoth and are enthusiastically endorsed by the Talmud’s definitive legal work, Treatise Sanhedrin.

            THE PHARISEES ENDORSED CHILD SEX

            The rabbis of the Talmud are notorious for their legal hairsplitting, and quibbling debates. But they share rare agreement about their right to molest three year old girls. In contrast to many hotly debated issues, hardly a hint
            of dissent rises against the prevailing opinion (expressed in many clear passages) that pedophilia is not only normal but scriptural as well! It’s as if the rabbis have found an exalted truth whose majesty silences debate.

            Because the Talmudic authorities who sanction pedophilia are so renowned, and because pedophilia as “halakah” is so explicitly emphasized, not even the translators of the Soncino edition of the Talmud (1936) dared insert a footnote
            suggesting the slightest criticism. They only comment: “Marriage, of course, was then at a far earlier age than now.” (3)

            In fact, footnote 5 to Sanhedrin 60b rejects the right of a Talmudic rabbi to disagree with ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia: “How could they [the rabbis], contrary to the opinion of R. Simeon ben Yohai, which has scriptural
            support, forbid the marriage of the young proselyte?” (4)

            OUT OF BABYLON

            It was in Babylon after the exile under Nebuchadnezzar in 597 BC that Judaism’s leading sages probably began to indulge in pedophilia. Babylon was the staggeringly immoral capitol of the ancient world. For 1600 years, the world’s largest population of Jews flourished within it. [Ashkenazik Shinar ('sin') was a stone throw away from Sodom and Gomorrah - Any questions?]

            As an example of their evil, Babylonian priests said a man’s religious duty included regular sex with temple prostitutes. Bestiality was widely tolerated. So Babylonians hardly cared whether a rabbi married [raped] a three year old girl.

            But with expulsion of the Jews ['Edomites, Pharisees, Ashkenazim, Khazars, Sephardim'] in the 11th century AD, mostly to western Christian lands, Gentile tolerance of Jewish pedophilia abruptly ended.

            Still, a shocking contradiction lingers: If Jews want to revere the transcendent wisdom and moral guidance of the Pharisees and their Talmud, they must accept the right of their greatest ancient sages to violate children. To this hour, no synod of Judaism has repudiated their vile practice.

            SEX WITH A “MINOR” PERMITTED

            What exactly did these sages say?

            The Pharisees justified child rape by explaining that a boy of nine years was not a “man” (See, “Judaism and Homosexuality: A Marriage Made in Hell”) Thus they exempted him from God’s Mosaic Law: “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination” (Lev. 18:22) One passage in the Talmud gives permission for a woman who molested her young son to marry a high
            priest. It concludes, “All agree that the connection of a boy aged nine years and a day is a real connection; whilst that of one less than eight years is not.” (5) Because a boy under 9 is sexually immature, he can’t “throw guilt” on the active offender, morally or legally. (6)

            A woman could molest a young boy without questions of morality even being raised: “…the intercourse of a small boy is not regarded as a sexual act.” (7)
            The Talmud also says, “A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his deceased brother’s wife acquires her (as wife).” (8) Clearly, the Talmud teaches that a woman is permitted to marry and have sex with a nine year old boy.

            SEX AT THREE YEARS & ONE DAY

            In contrast to Simeon ben Yohai’s dictum that sex with a little girl is permitted under the age of three years, the general teaching of the Talmud is that the rabbi must wait until a day after her third birthday. She could be taken in marriage simply by the act of rape. [these were the 'precursors' of
            Hillary, Pelosi, Kagan, Napolitano, Ginsburg, Boxer, Albright, Abzug, Goldman, Livni, ad nauseam]

            R. Joseph said: “Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabits with her, she becomes his.” (Sanh. 55b)

            “A girl who is three years of age and one day may be betrothed by cohabitation…” (Yeb. 57b)

            A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabited with her she becomes his. (Sanh. 69a, 69b, also discussed in Yeb. 60b)

            It was taught: R. Simeon b. Yohai stated: “A proselyte who is under the age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest, for it is said, But all the women children that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for
            yourselves, and Phineas (who was priest, the footnote says) surely was with them.” (Yeb. 60b)

            [The Talmud says such three year and a day old girls are] “… fit for cohabitation … But all women children, that have not known man by lying with him, it must be concluded that Scripture speaks of one who is fit for cohabitation.” (Footnote to Yeb. 60b)

            The example of Phineas, a priest, himself marrying an underage virgin of three years is considered by the Talmud as proof that such infants are “fit for cohabitation.”

            The Talmud teaches that an adult woman’s molestation of a nine year old boy is “not a sexual act” and cannot “throw guilt” upon her because the little boy is not truly a “man.” (9) But they use opposite logic to sanction rape of little girls aged three years and one day: Such infants they count as “women,” sexually mature and fully responsible to comply with the requirements of marriage.

            The Talmud footnotes 3 and 4 to Sanhedrin 55a clearly tell us when the rabbis considered a boy and girl sexually mature and thus ready for marriage. “At nine years a male attains sexual matureness… The sexual matureness of woman is reached at the age of three.”

            NO RIGHTS FOR CHILD VICTIMS

            The Pharisees were hardly ignorant of the trauma felt by molested children. To complicate redress, the Talmud says a rape victim must wait until she was of age before there would be any possibility of restitution. She must prove that
            she lived and would live as a devoted Jewess, and she must protest the loss of her virginity on the very hour she comes of age. “As soon as she was of age one hour and did not protest she cannot protest any more.” (10)

            The Talmud defends these strict measures as necessary to forestall the possibility of a Gentile child bride rebelling against Judaism and spending the damages awarded to her as a heathen – an unthinkable blasphemy! But the rights
            of the little girl were really of no great consequence, for, “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than this (three years and a day) it is as if one put the finger into the eye.”
            The footnote says that as “tears come to the eye again and again, so does virginity come back to the little girl under three years.” (11)

            In most cases, the Talmud affirms the innocence of male and female victims of pedophilia. Defenders of the Talmud claim this proves the Talmud’s amazing moral advancement and benevolence toward children; they say it contrasts
            favorably with “primitive” societies where the child would have been stoned along with the adult perpetrator.

            Actually, the rabbis, from self-protection, were intent on proving the innocence of both parties involved in pedophilia: the child, but more importantly, the pedophile. They stripped a little boy of his right to “throw guilt” on his assailant and demanded complicity in sex from a little girl. By thus providing no significant moral or legal recourse for the child, the Talmud clearly reveals whose side it is on: the raping rabbi.

            PEDOPHILIA WIDESPREAD

            Child rape was practiced in the highest circles of Judaism . This is illustrated from Yeb. 60b:

            “There was a certain town in the land of Israel the legitimacy
            of whose inhabitants was disputed, and Rabbi sent R. Romanos who conducted an inquiry and found in it the daughter of a proselyte who was under the age of three years and one day, and Rabbi declared her eligible to live with a priest.”

            The footnote says that she was “married to a priest” and the rabbi simply permitted her to live with her husband, thus upholding “halakah” as well as the dictum of Simeon ben Yohai, “A proselyte who is under the age of three years
            and one day is permitted to marry a priest.” (12)

            These child brides were expected to submit willingly to sex. Yeb. 12b confirms that under eleven years and one day a little girl is not permitted to use a contraceptive but “must carry on her marital intercourse in the usual manner.”

            In Sanhedrin 76b a blessing is given to the man who marries off his children before they reach the age of puberty, with a contrasting curse on anyone who waits longer. In fact, failure to have married off one’s daughter by the time she is 12-1/2, the Talmud says, is as bad as one who “returns a lost article to a Cuthean” (Gentile) – a deed for which “the Lord will not spare him.” (13)
            This passage says: “… it is meritorious to marry off one’s children whilst minors.”

            The mind reels at the damage to the untold numbers of girls who were sexually abused within Judaism during the heyday of pedophilia. Such child abuse, definitely practiced in the second century, continued, at least in Babylon, for
            another 900 years.

            A FASCINATION WITH SEX

            Perusing the Talmud, one is overwhelmed with the recurrent preoccupation with sex, especially by the most eminent rabbis. Dozens of illustrations could be presented to illustrate the delight of the Pharisees to discuss sex and quibble over its minutest details.

            The rabbis endorsing child sex undoubtedly practiced what they preached. Yet to this hour, their words are revered. Simeon ben Yohai is honored by Orthodox Jews as one of the very greatest sages and spiritual lights the world has ever known [!!!]. A member of the earliest “Tannaim,” rabbis most influential in creating the Talmud, he carries more authority to observant Jews than Moses.

            Today, the Talmud’s outspoken pedophiles and child-rape advocates would doubtlessly spend hard time in prison for child molestation. Yet here is what the eminent Jewish scholar, Dagobert Runes (who is fully aware of all these
            passages), says about such “dirty old men” and their perverted teachings:

            “There is no truth whatever in Christian and other strictures against the Pharisees, who represented the finest traditions of their people and of human morals.” (14)

            AREN’T THE WORDS OF JESUS MORE APPROPRIATE?

            “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.” (Matthew 23:27, 28.)

            Endnotes:

            1 Yebamoth 60b, p. 402.

            2 Yebamoth 60b, p. 403.

            3 Sanhedrin 76a.

            4 In Yebamoth 60b, p. 404, Rabbi Zera disagrees that sex with girls under three years and one day should be endorsed as halakah.

            5 Sanhedrin 69b.

            6 Sanhedrin 55a.

            7 Footnote 1 to Kethuboth 11b.

            8 Sanhedrin 55b.

            9 Sanhedrin 55a.

            10 Kethuboth 11a.

            11 Kethuboth 11b.

            12 Yebamoth 60b.

            13 Sanhedrin 76b.

            14 Dagobert Runes, A Concise Dictionary of Judaism, New York, 1959.

            MAYBE NOW YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT JESUS WAS SAYING IN MATTHEW 18:1-9?

          • pitFlyz

            Yep, You hate Jews. And, you didn’t address my question although I’m not sure that it’s possible to answer questions with copy and paste responses.

  • spindok

    Raymond attracts some interesting followers.

    Larry is refreshing in his honesty.

    Raymond comes from the most virulent anti semetic Israel hating pro nationalist Egyptian Church ever. Ask him about that. You will not get an answer.

    What you will get is an emotional appeal about the very real persecution of Christian groups, which the Copts could care less about, in Arab lands. He gives no plan as to how to deal with that. Larry, in his manic rave, at least spells it right out for you in terms that would make Himmler blush.

    Good luck with that Raymond.

    • Arius1071

      Go to hell with your disinformation.

    • Larry

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