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Exposed: Final Conversation Between Morsi and Sisi

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On July 5, El Watan (“the nation”), one of Egypt’s most popular newspapers, published the final dialogue between General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and Dr. Muhammad Morsi, which took place on Tuesday July 2, a few hours before Morsi’s final speech to the Egyptian people. A reporter who was taken to an adjacent room was allowed to witness and transcribe their conversation from a TV screen. I translate the entire speech as it appears on El Watan below:

Exchange Between Morsi and Sisi

Morsi: What’s the military’s position concerning what’s going on? Is it just going to stand by watching? Shouldn’t it protect the legitimacy?

Sisi: What legitimacy? The entire army is with the will of the people, and the overwhelming majority of people, according to documented reports, don’t want you.

Morsi: My supporters are many and they won’t be silent.

Sisi: The army will not allow anyone to destroy the nation, no matter what happens.

Morsi: What if I don’t want to leave?

Sisi: The matter is settled and no longer up to you. Try to leave with your dignity and tell those whom you call supporters to go back to their homes in order to prevent bloodshed, instead of threatening the people through them.

Morsi: But this way it will be a military coup, and America won’t leave you alone.

Sisi: The people concern us, not America. And since you’ve started to talk this way, I’ll talk to you candidly. We have evidence to condemn you and to condemn many governmental officials of compromising Egypt’s national security. The judiciary will have its say and you will all be judged before the whole people.

Morsi: Okay, can you permit me to make a few phone calls and then afterwards I’ll decide on what to do?

Sisi: You are not permitted; but we can let you check up on your family only.

Morsi: Am I imprisoned or what?

Sisi: You are under arrest from this moment.

Morsi: Don’t think the Brotherhood is going to stand by if I leave office. They will set the world on fire.

Sisi: Just let them try something and you’ll see the reaction of the army. Whoever among them wants to live in peace, he’s more than welcome; otherwise, [if they try anything] we will not leave them alone. We will not single anyone out, and the Brotherhood is from the Egyptian people, so don’t try to use them as fuel for your disgusting war. If you truly love them, leave office and let them go to their homes.

Morsi: Anyway, I’m not going, and the people outside of Egypt are all with me, and my supporters are not going.

Sisi: Anyway, I’ve advised you.

Morsi: Okay, but take care—I’m the one who hired you as minister and can remove you.

Sisi: I became minister of defense due to the military’s will and not yours—and you know this very well. Moreover, you can’t remove me; that’s it—you no longer have any legitimacy.

Morsi: Okay, if I agree to be removed, will you allow me to travel abroad and promise not to imprison me?

Sisi: I can’t offer you any promises. It’s the justice [department] that will pass its verdict.

Morsi: Okay, if that’s the case, I’ll make it war, and we’ll see who will prevail in the end.

Sisi: Naturally the people will win.

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  • wollfb

    this is truly remarkable. Raymond, what does Obama say about this? Morsi is declaring war in the name of Allah.

    • Ty

      seriously? I did not see the word “Allah” anywhere in the article!!

      • wollfb

        read the rest of his comments made to the Egyptian public calling on all muslims to do gods will and return him to office.

        • Ty

          Please educate me and tell me which articles in the constitution you do not like.

          • wollfb

            go read it for yourself. i really don’t have time to go back and forth with someone who is quite obviously looking for an argument.

        • Ty

          For Muslims, they believe that anything happen by GOD’s will. All things, good and bad. I believe the same goes for any other religion, but Muslims are just more vocal about it. Many christian churches use the same speech that the Muslims do, the difference is that the media is biased.
          If you think about it, Bush killed more people than Bin Laden did. Both are criminals. Bush, the christian, started a false war in Iraq and sacrificed thousands of his countrymen and women. He killed Hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, but the media does not talk about it because it is a biased media.

          Next, What proof do you have that they were prevented from voting in the way you describe it, show me some evidence from a neutral source.

          In addition, I am not defending Morsi, I am defending legitimacy.
          If you live in a democratic country, you must respect the legitimacy of an elected official.

          • Twisk

            Hitler was democratically elected in Germany, too, and so, by your same logic, he was a legitimate ruler. Thankfully, his “legitimacy” did not stop us fighting him.

  • aebe

    “Set the world on fire” . Yup . And our Presidunce has armed and financed those who will be striking the match . And unless the American government is willing to give military aid to the Israelis , you don’t need to guess where the largest fire will be set . If the people of Egypt were no longer wanting an islamist government , things could have been different .
    Validate your 2nd Amendment Rights . Carry .

    • Ty

      I would like to clarify something. I was born in Egypt. the phrase “set the world on fire” is a figure of speech. It means that Morsi and his supporters will not go quietly. They will create unrest and civil disobedience.

  • Bob TheBuilder

    Yup, that sounds like Morsi and the amazing MB we’ve got to know and love over the past year! Pretty sad that this guy actually controlled Egypt for a year.

    • Wildflowers Jones

      what’s even sadder is the Omistake that has controlled this country for the last 4 1/2 years

      • Bob TheBuilder

        Are you referring to Mubarak regime?

  • LarrySingleton

    I really don’t like this format. For some reason I can’t move the page from side to side in order to read it. Unless I reduce the page, then I can’t read it. Aside from that I don’t like the layout.

  • http://onfollowingchrist.wordpress.com Paul B.

    A remarkable convo. I hope the general is as decent as he sounds. Egypt is starving for true leadership.

  • Max Modine

    Whatever you do, decent Americans, do NOT take your eyes off Barry Soetoro. The cornered snake will lash out at anything. Barry is failing, his incompetencies more obvious. His sympathies are to islam.

    Remember that he is not an American by normal standards. He is from an extremely disfunctional background with much of his formative years spent in a moslem country and the rest under the influence of marxists and communists and islamicists. As things unravel more he will not behave as a normal rational American. His disfunctionality will will take over and just about anything can happen

    Remember that this very dangerous man carries the codes to the ‘football’.

  • Steve

    Very interesting article!

  • Ahmed

    It is very fucked up article, and it has nothing to do with the truth. Do you have any evidence?

    • wollfb

      here we go again Raymond. You translate the Arabic article to English from a major Egyptian newspaper and since the content puts morsi in a bad light, they start calling the article a fake. every time the truth comes out and its embarrassing to the Muslim Brotherhood, they scream fake. The world knows the truth about Morsi the Islamic supremacist and obama his backer.They both need to be replaced.

  • Necrophagi

    Sisi sounds decent.

    • wollfb

      SISI IS A BLOOD THIRSTY BUTCHER. I’m happy to see Morsi go, but Sisi and the Generals are no better. Egypt needs a fair election without all the religious factions involved. Religion is killing the people of Egypt. Democracy is secular.

  • John Rgood

    How is this verified?

  • taghor

    Taghor

    Can you really beleive this article? Morsi’s answer to sisi that his supporters are many and wont be silent is full of threatining to the general just after his strong words does not make sense, mentioning that the US wont leave him alone does not make sense either he should have said a specific and expected outcome of a coup as cutting the US aid to military.
    This is quite pathetic trying to show Sisi as a great patriot and Morsi as a coward and a traitor, but you are free to think then believe whatever you come out with.

    • Ty

      13 million people elected Morsi. He has lots of supporters. He was just stating a fact not threatening Sisi. By mentioning the US he probably meant the the US laws does not tolerate military coups. He held on to his legitimate position of being an elected president.

  • Ty

    I would like to clarify something.

    I was born in Egypt. the phrase “set the world on fire” is a figure of speech. It means that Morsi and his supporters will not go quietly. They will create unrest and civil
    disobedience.

    About 13 million people elected Morsi. He has lots of supporters. He was just
    stating a fact not threatening Sisi. By mentioning the US he probably
    meant the the US laws does not tolerate military coups. He held on to
    his legitimate position of being an elected president.

    Tamarrod claims that they gathered 22 million signatures in 2 months? and 33 million went to the streets? The military and Mubarak’s old regime, Mubarak was a military man, seized the opportunity overthrew the first democratically elected president in Egyptian History.

    • aussiewoman

      listen! 15 million people voted in Morsi, 30 MILLION rose up and took to th streets, the largest protest ever recorded, to oust him, its the will of the people, !! a few MB fanatics will not prevail over the majority wh othey are slaughtering to make their point Morsi couldn’t give a rats arse for Egypts welfare, he just want to acheive his and Obamas agenda, the Sharia Sunni sectruling the people

    • lynnd

      the people rejected him and the MB when they found out where they (Morsi and the MB) were taking them. They do NOT want to belong to a radical islamic sharia compliant state. PERIOD!

  • Ty

    This is a full military coup! evidence?
    1. They are holding the legitimate fairly elected president hostage. He is not allowed to call anyone. Sisi said that as the article shows.

    2. They suspended the constitution, although the Anti-Morsi protesters did not request that.
    3. They closed all media outlets that are pro-Morsi.
    4. They fight any news outlet that is showing the pro-Morsi demonstrations including CNN.

    4. The president that they installed and his administration do not include any of the protesters that belong to “tamarrod”
    5. They are prosecuting the Muslim Brotherhood with false accusations
    6. The military just made a massacre by killing 71 pro-morsi protesters and wounding approximately 1000 claiming that they tried to storm the Republican Guard Social Club using rock and air guns.

    7. There are protests all over Egypt asking for Morsi’s return because he is the elected president.

    • Ty

      sorry, I miss numbered above :- (

  • DogWithoutSlippers

    When Morsi said “America won’t leave you alone”
    Did he mean really Obama wouldn’t allow it?