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Kidnapped Nuns No Longer Bear the Cross

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A new video of the twelve Christian nuns kidnapped in Syria recently appeared.  In it, the nuns are taped sitting in a room and being questioned by an unseen man, presumably a member of the kidnappers.  He asks them how they are, if they’ve been mistreated, etc.

Hostage nuns: stripped of the Cross

They respond that they are being treated fine, that they very much look forward to being returned to their convent, that they heartily thank the world for its concern, and that they continually pray that God grant peace to all nations.

Their words say one thing, their expressions and demeanor another.  Put differently, as female captives of Islamic jihadis, what else could they say but what they were told to say?  (See, for example, how the nun in glasses had to be forced to face the camera at 1:46.)  Even if one of them dared to say the “wrong thing,” it naturally would have been edited out.  Who knows how many takes it took to get the video—which includes a bizarre clip of the nuns having a snowball fight with their abductors—just right?

One thing, however, although minor, speaks volumes concerning the nature of their captivity.  Although these same nuns, in pictures before they were kidnapped, often appear wearing the large pectoral crosses that nuns often wear, these are all gone in the recent video.

This is to be expected, considering the “pious” nature of their captors.  According to strict Islamic teaching, Christians and other non-Muslims are forbidden to show any signs or expressions of their “polytheism” (shirk in Arabic).  Indeed, this is spelled out clearly in the Conditions of Omar, which mainstream Muslim teaching attributes to the second caliph of the same name.

After the seventh century armies of Islam conquered a particular Christian region—possibly and ironically in Syria—Omar stipulated several conditions for Christians to accept, including “Not to display a cross on them [churches], nor raise our voices during prayer or readings in our churches anywhere near Muslims; Not to produce a cross or [Christian] book in the markets of the Muslims” (see Crucified Again, pgs. 24-27 for my new translation of the entire text of the Conditions of Omar).

From here we understand the true plight of the captive nuns: to their captors, not only are the Christian women hostages to be used for leverage, but ideologically speaking, they are “infidel” inferiors—near sub-humans who are more akin to animals.  Indeed, the same Caliph Omar whom Syria’s jihadis are hearkening to regarding the ban on Christian crosses is also on record saying that the life of a non-Muslim is equal to the life of a dog (Western readers should bear in mind that in Arab/Muslim culture, dogs are among the lowest life forms.)

As such, the plight of the kidnapped nuns remains precarious—all their scripted words aside. (See here for more on the history of Islamic jihad on Christian nuns.)

As for the effects of removing  the nuns’ crosses, an Arabic column by one Father George makes an interesting point highlighting the difference between outwardly observant “Salafi” Muslims, presumably like the kidnappers—with their beards and prayer callouses on their foreheads—and inwardly observant Christians like these nuns:

St Paul says “But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world” (Galatians 6:14).  You removed the cross from the nuns’ breasts.  Remove it!  We do not rely on the visible.  But know that the cross is firmly planted in the hearts of each and every one of those nuns.

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  • jong

    First may GOD protect these women and preserve them. Secondly why in heavens name have we not sent in Delta to get them out. Oh. I forgot ole jug ears stands with his muslim brothers in all they do.

    • Rezali Mehil

      Assalamau Laikum Mr, Jong,

      God IS protecting these women – they are under the auspices of Allah SWT and being preserved (that is a horrible word) by muslims who by all accounts have looked after them very well – so there is no need for a delta force unit or any reason for a “rescue attempt”….for what is there to rescue them from?

      Delta will only be the enabler for unfortunate accidents so ixnay to that…but I do know that in good time they can go home when their monastery is safe.

      I know that indeed the nuns are god fearing women who will no doubt learn a lot about Islamic hospitality and will repay the hospitality by offering to cook for their hosts here and there.

      More Later…..

      Rezali

      • Nan

        Allah is an asshole as are his pals.

        • Larry

          YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,

          YHWH, BAAL, MOLOCH etc.

          • realclearconservative

            I have fought many people and demons in my life but, I have never crossed paths with someone so filled with such hatred. Some fine day I will succumb to the ravages of age. You, on the other hand, will likely be consumed by your hatred. I would give every material possession I’ve ever acquired in my life to be able to read your last thoughts. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to hear your wretched pleas for forgiveness. However, I have absolutely no doubt that Someone will.

          • Larry

            YO HOMER,

            Is that a picture of a Native American Indian Chief you have?
            Have you EVER wondered why Native American Indians don’t celebrate Thanksgiving?

            Thanksgiving: A National Day of Mourning for Indians

            by Moonanum James and Mahtowin Munro

            Every year since 1970, United American Indians of New England have organized the National Day of Mourning observance in Plymouth at noon on Thanksgiving Day. Every year, hundreds of Native people and our supporters from all four directions join us. Every year, including this
            year, Native people from throughout the Americas will speak the truth about our history and about current issues and struggles we are involved in.

            Why do hundreds of people stand out in the cold rather than sit home eating turkey and watching football? Do we have something against a harvest festival?

            Of course not. But Thanksgiving in this country — and in particular in Plymouth –is much more than a harvest home festival. It is a celebration of the pilgrim mythology.

            According to this mythology, the pilgrims arrived, the Native people fed them and welcomed them, the Indians promptly faded into the background, and everyone lived happily ever after.

            The truth is a sharp contrast to that mythology.

            The pilgrims are glorified and mythologized because the circumstances of the first English-speaking colony in Jamestown were frankly too ugly (for example, they turned to cannibalism to survive) to hold up as an effective national myth. The pilgrims did not find an empty land any
            more than Columbus “discovered” anything. Every inch of this land is Indian land. The pilgrims (who did not even call themselves pilgrims) did not come here seeking religious freedom; they already had that in Holland. They came here as part of a commercial venture. They introduced sexism, racism, anti-lesbian and gay bigotry, jails, and the class system to these shores. One of the very first things they did when they arrived on Cape Cod — before they even made it to Plymouth — was to rob Wampanoag graves at Corn Hill and steal as much of the Indians’ winter provisions of corn and beans as they were able to carry. They were no better than any other group of Europeans when it came to their
            treatment of the Indigenous peoples here. And no, they did not even land at that sacred shrine called Plymouth Rock, a monument to racism and oppression which we are proud to say we buried in 1995.

            The first official “Day of Thanksgiving” was proclaimed in 1637 by Governor Winthrop. He did so to celebrate the safe return of men from the Massachusetts Bay Colony who had gone to Mystic, Connecticut to participate in the massacre of over 700 Pequot women, children, and men.

            About the only true thing in the whole mythology is that these pitiful European strangers would not have survived their first several years in “New England” were it not for the aid of Wampanoag people. What Native people got in return for this help was genocide, theft of our lands, and never-ending repression. We are treated either as quaint relics
            from the past, or are, to most people, virtually invisible.

            When we dare to stand up for our rights, we are considered
            unreasonable. When we speak the truth about the history of the European invasion, we are often told to “go back where we came from.” Our roots are right here. They do not extend across any ocean.

            National Day of Mourning began in 1970 when a Wampanoag man, Wamsutta Frank James, was asked to speak at a state dinner celebrating the 350th anniversary of the pilgrim landing. He refused to speak false words in
            praise of the white man for bringing civilization to us poor heathens. Native people from throughout the Americas came to Plymouth, where they mourned their forebears who had been sold into slavery, burned alive, massacred, cheated, and mistreated since the arrival of the Pilgrims in
            1620.

            But the commemoration of National Day of Mourning goes far beyond the circumstances of 1970.

            Can we give thanks as we remember Native political prisoner Leonard Peltier, who was framed up by the FBI and has been falsely imprisoned since 1976? Despite mountains of evidence exonerating Peltier and the
            proven misconduct of federal prosecutors and the FBI, Peltier has been denied a new trial. Bill Clinton apparently does not feel that particular pain and has refused to grant clemency to this innocent man.

            To Native people, the case of Peltier is one more ordeal in a litany of wrongdoings committed by the U.S. government against us. While the media in New England present images of the “Pequot miracle” in Connecticut, the vast majority of Native people continue to live in the most abysmal poverty.

            Can we give thanks for the fact that, on many reservations, unemployment rates surpass fifty percent? Our life expectancies are much lower, our infant mortality and teen suicide rates much higher, than those of white Americans. Racist stereotypes of Native people, such as those
            perpetuated by the Cleveland Indians, the Atlanta Braves, and countless local and national sports teams, persist. Every single one of the more than 350 treaties that Native nations signed has been broken by the U.S. government. The bipartisan budget cuts have severely reduced
            educational opportunities for Native youth and the development of new housing on reservations, and have caused deadly cutbacks in health-care and other necessary services.

            Are we to give thanks for being treated as unwelcome in our own country?

            Or perhaps we are expected to give thanks for the war that is being waged by the Mexican government against Indigenous peoples there, with the military aid of the U.S. in the form of helicopters and other equipment? When the descendants of the Aztec, Maya, and Inca flee to the U.S., the descendants of the wash-ashore pilgrims term them ‘illegal aliens” and hunt them down.

            We object to the “Pilgrim Progress” parade and to what goes on in Plymouth because they are making millions of tourist dollars every year from the false pilgrim mythology. That money is being made off the backs of our slaughtered indigenous ancestors.

            Increasing numbers of people are seeking alternatives to such holidays as Columbus Day and Thanksgiving. They are coming to the conclusion that, if we are ever to achieve some sense of community, we must first face the truth about the history of this country and the toll that history has taken on the lives of millions of Indigenous, Black, Latino, Asian, and poor and working class white people.

          • realclearconservative

            No, it’s a picture of a writing tablet. The kind I used as a child in school. Lesson over, dismissed.

          • Larry

            THE PICTURE CLEARLY DEPICTS A NATIVE AMERICAN CHIEF!

            ITS BAD ENOUGH YOU BEING PSYCHOTIC, BUT A LIAR TO BOOT.

            NOW THAT IS SICK , MAN!

      • jong

        Ah, but you draw the wrong conclusion. I was with BLUE LIGHT before I was with what is called DELTA. My people dont make mistakes. And yes I have operated in that part of the world. Good food. Lousy bathrooms.

        • Rezali Mehil

          Mr Jong,

          Surely you jest …..even the best trained muslim soldiers make mistakes …what chance have you got of getting everyone out ..

          Come now…

          More Later….

          Rezali

          • jong

            Hum. Grenada for one. A trained muslim is about as good as a trained dog. You can teach it to fetch but, never to throw.

          • Bosniarat

            Hooaah. These Islamic Dregs have their day coming faster than they know.

          • jong

            I live in Michigan and we keep a close eye on both Coldwater where they have a training camp and of course Dearbornistan

      • wermet

        “Allah SWT”? That mean “shitwad turd”, right?

  • Jules C.

    Raymond, please keep us informed about these precious divine nuns. What kind of evil would kidnap virtuous nuns as captives to prove their own pernicious view? Satanic bullies. Beyond…

    Jules

  • Jeanne

    FTA: “:As for the effects of removing the nuns’ crosses, an Arabic column by one Father George makes an interesting point highlighting the difference between outwardly observant “Salafi” Muslims…..and inwardly observant Christians like these nuns…..But know that the cross is firmly planted in the hearts of each and every one of those nuns.”

    Amen! Christ lives in the heart of the believer! Thank you, Raymond.

    • Larry

      MOHAMMEDANISM WILL BE THE SALVATION OF TRUE CHRISTIANITY!

      THINK ABOUT IT!

      Jesus prayed:

      “I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to babes; yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will.”

      I DESIRE MERCY, NOT SACRIFICE

      Have you never questioned the idea of killing a man to appease God?

      Jesus says:

      MATTHEW 9

      [13] Go and learn what this means, `I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.

      MATTHEW 12

      [7] And if you had known what this means, `I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless.

      The prophet says:

      Hosea.6

      [6] For I desire steadfast love and not sacrifice, the knowledge of God, rather than burnt offerings. . ..

      THE DEATH OF JESUS OF NAZARETH WAS NOT A SACRIFICE, IT WAS AN EXECUTION OF AN INNOCENT PROPHET OF GOD, BY TALMUDIC JEWS & ROMANS.

      Of the many false doctrines of Christendom, none can be more heinous to the Father than this — that He required His innocent Son, Jesus of Nazareth, to atone for the sins of humans by suffering the horrible death of crucifixion, thus becoming a vicarious, sacrificial atonement. It is heinous because it renders men –

      1. Blind to the true message of the Old Testament scriptures,

      2. Deaf to the voice of Jesus,

      3. Utterly ignorant as to the merciful nature of God and

      4. Seals their condemnation who might otherwise have found salvation.

      HUMAN SACRIFICES

      There is evidence of this sacrifice ritual in every ancient culture, from the Andes to the Nile, including human sacrifice to the god. The evidence
      reaches back into the remotest recesses of pre-history. It was practiced by the ancient Egyptians and the peoples of ancient Mesopotamia. The
      patriarch, Abraham, brought it with him from the Tigris-Euphrates delta when he journeyed with Terah to Haran and thence into Canaan. The Hebrews in Egyptian captivity found the practice flourishing in the Nile delta and
      continued offering sacrifices to the gods. It was ubiquitous in Greek and Roman religion.

      Where was it? It was very likely in Egypt that the sacrificial rituals later codified in the Pentateuch began to be developed by the Hebrews according to which animals, not humans, were offered up to Yahweh. The practice continued and was eventually focused on the Temple in Jerusalem, which became the center of all Hebrew sacrifices. And so it continued until AD 70 when the last temple was destroyed by Titus. It continues even today among the most primitive peoples, and in those institutions known as Christian Churches.

      The Jews were not unique in the First Century. Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Syrian, and Persian religions continued the practice of ritual sacrifice. This was the custom throughout the world when Jesus of Nazareth was crucified, so that it was a natural and normal thing for his followers to think that he may have been a human sacrifice to the God of the Jews. When their temple was
      destroyed some forty years later and the Jewish sacrifices ceased for lack of
      temple, alter and priesthood, the thought that Jesus had been offered up as the last sacrifice became very attractive to certain of his Jewish disciples.

      The evidence indicates that some early disciples, of whom Saul of Tarsus seems most prominent, began to develop a theological scheme that tied the crucifixion of Jesus to the Jewish prophets and selected teachings of
      Jesus in such a way as to build a case for the false doctrine that his
      crucifixion was a vicarious, atoning sacrifice providing forgiveness of sin.
      The scheme proved to be attractive to the many Gentile nations also, for it contained unique elements in addition to many common elements that were practically and intellectually superior to the sacrificial schemes of the pagan religions of the time, primarily those of Greece, Rome, and Persia. The unique evangelical zeal of the early Christians then provided the grease that lubricated the rails of the new religion as it moved out into the Gentile world.

      The rest is history!

      But the Father has stated through Jesus and the prophets:

      I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.

  • Martin Grimes

    Amen to that! Well finished! Raymond, thank you for being a voice for the persecuted, for the Lord Jesus, and we give Him the glory. So many people are being told about Christian persecution coming from the religion of Islam, because of you are people like you who are putting their necks on the line, and as heart breaking as it is, it needs to be told!

  • Larry

    YO RAY,

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems that only non-Roman Catholic Christians are at the receiving end of Muhammedan terror.

    Roman Catholicism & Mohammedanism have so much in common!

    Both claim to be the Voice of God & where they have/had the power, they slaughtered those who protested against them.

    Most of your commenters are ignorant of the 3 headed monster, Talmudic Judaism, Romanism & Mohammedanism. These three claim to be of the Abrahamic faith, and when one reads their histories, you can begin to understand why they are so blood thirsty. Remember Abraham was going to slaughter his son Isaac! What kind of god would ask a human being to do such a thing?

    No! All three CULTS should be outlawed!

    Everyone should Google:

    The Role of the Catholic Church in Yugoslavia’s Holocaust.

    During the Second World War in Yugoslavia, Catholic priests and Muslim clerics were willing accomplices in the genocide of the nations Serbian, Jewish and Roma population. From 1941 until 1945, the Nazi-installed regime of Ante Pavelic in Croatia carried out some of the most horrific crimes of the Holocaust (known as the Porajmos by the Roma), killing over 800,000 Yugoslav citizens – 750,000 Serbs, 60,000 Jews and 26,000 Roma. In these crimes, the Croatian Ustasha and Muslim fundamentalists
    were openly supported by the Vatican, the Archbishop of Zagreb Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac (1898-1960), and the Palestinian Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini. Many of the victims of the Pavelic regime in Croatia were killed in the war’s third largest death camp – Jasenovac, where over 200,000 people – mainly Orthodox Serbs met their deaths. Some 240,000 were “rebaptized” into the Catholic faith by fundamentalist Clerics in “the Catholic Kingdom of Croatia” as part of the policy to “kill a third, deport a third, convert a third” of Yugoslavia’s Serbs, Jews and
    Roma in wartime Bosnia and Croatia (The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the
    Vatican, Vladimar Dedijer, Anriman-Verlag, Freiburg, Germany, 1988).

    Nazi connection to Franciscan Order uncovered near Medjugorje, Bosnia

    The Franciscan order has always denied the evidence of its wartime ties to the Ustasha regime in Croatia. They acted as facilitators and middlemen in moving the contents of the Ustasha Treasury from Croatia to Austria, Italy and finally South America after the war.

    During the Nazi occupation of Bosnia, the Franciscans were closely involved with the Ustashe regime. Not far from Medjugorje in Bosnia (where the Virgin Mary is said to put in nightly appearances for the tens of thousands of Roman Catholic pilgrims), is the Franciscan monastery at Sirkoi Brijeg which has become the centre of
    allegations linking it to disappearance of the Ustashe treasury after the war.

    In San Francisco Federal Court in November 1999, in what was described as “tangible proof” of the Nazi Franciscan connection, was obtained when cameramen
    working for Phillip Kronzer (who has helped expose the Medjugorje myth) obtained entry to the Monastery and filmed a secret shrine honouring the Ustashe. A plaque dedicated to Franciscan monks who were Ustasha members was filmed along with a massive shrine lining the walls complete with photographs of Ustasha soldiers some in Nazi uniforms. The admonition, “Recognize us, We are yours” can clearly be seen in the video footage. On a later visit to the monastery the shrine had been dismantled but the videotape preserved the evidence and has now been made available by the Kronzer Foundation.

    • Euskaldun

      You are totally mistaken about Roman Catholicism having “so much in common” with Islam. It is true that the Catholic Church centuries ago did persecute non-Catholics but today Roman Catholicism and Islam are diametrically opposed concerning religious liberty, freedom of speech, morality, the persecution of minorities, family values, and so forth. Your statements about Talmudic Judaism are also way off the mark. Christians and Jews today do not do any of the inhuman acts perpetrated by pious Muslims. The killing of apostates, hanging of Gays, the stoning of adulterers, “honor killings”, the amputation of feet and hands of thieves, the beheadings of non-members, are all unique to Islam, as is the mandate to impose Islamic rule world-wide.

      • Larry

        THE ROMAN PEDOPHILE, PERVERTED CULT

        During the Second World War in Yugoslavia, Catholic priests and Muslim clerics were willing accomplices in the genocide of
        the nations Serbian, Jewish and Roma population. From 1941 until 1945, the Nazi-installed regime of Ante Pavelic in Croatia carried out some of the most horrific crimes of the Holocaust (known as the Porajmos by the Roma), killing over 800,000 Yugoslav citizens – 750,000 Serbs, 60,000 Jews and 26,000 Roma. In these crimes, the Croatian Ustasha and Muslim fundamentalists were openly supported by the Vatican, the Archbishop of Zagreb Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac (1898-1960), and the Palestinian Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini. Many of the victims of the
        Pavelic regime in Croatia were killed in the war’s third largest death camp – Jasenovac, where over 200,000 people – mainly Orthodox Serbs met their deaths. Some 240,000 were “rebaptized” into the Catholic faith by fundamentalist Clerics in “the Catholic Kingdom of Croatia” as part of the policy to “kill a third, deport a third, convert a third” of Yugoslavia’s Serbs, Jews and Roma in wartime Bosnia and Croatia (The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican, Vladimar Dedijer, Anriman-Verlag, Freiburg, Germany, 1988).

        • Euskaldun

          Larry:
          You are way out of line participating on this site. Jihadwatch is a forum for discussion and action concerning Islam, which is a uniquely totalitarian religion cum tyrannical system of law and mandates. There is no other religion on earth which mandates its members to act in such nefarious ways and which is such a dire threat to civilization. It matters not whether you are a Christian, a Jew, a Hindu, a Buddhist, an Atheist or Agnostic; Islam considers you as an unworthy Infidel, deserving of scorn and persecution unless you convert to Islam.
          Your moral relativism is, unfortunately, prevalent in most of our and other governments and spread widely throughout academia and our social media. Unless we all awake to the unique threat posed by Islam, we shall continue to drift towards capitulation to this totalitarian ideology.

          • Larry

            WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO SAY WHO IS OUT OF LINE?

            YOU & HOMER SIMPSON HAVE ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER OF BRAIN CELLS.

            IF THERE IS A GOD, AS YOU CLAIM, THEN ITS HIS/HER/IT’S FAULT FOR ALLOWING MOHAMMEDANISM TO DO WHAT IT HAS DONE FOR 1400 YEARS.

            WHERE ARE ALL THE ARCH ANGELS TO DO HIS BIDDING GONE?

            ARE THEY ALL RETIRED OR WAS IT ALL A HARRY POTTER FARCE?

            YOU ARE WILLFULLY BLIND TO THE EVIL OF TALMUDIC JUDAISM & ROMANISM.

            WHEN I WANT TO SEE WHAT IT WAS LIKE FOR JEWS TO STONE A WOMAN TO DEATH, FOR ADULTERY, I CAN GO TO YOU TUBE & SEE MOHAMMEDANS DOING IT TODAY.

            BUT REMEMBER IT WAS THE JEWISH GOD WHO STARTED IT FOR MOHAMMEDANS.

            WHEN I WANT TO SEE WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE BURNT ALIVE OR CRUCIFIED, I CAN GO TO YOU TUBE & SEE MOHAMMEDANS DOING SUCH THINGS TODAY.

            BUT REMEMBER, IT WAS YOUR YHWH WHO SANCTIONED THE CRUCIFIXION OF YESHUA.

            AND IT WAS THE VICARS OF CHRIST WHO SANCTIONED “HERETICS” TO BE BURNT ALIVE AT THE STAKE.

            YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD SO FAR UP YOUR ASS, YOU CANNOT SEE REALITY.

            MOHAMMEDANISM MAY JUST BECOME THE SALVATION OF CHRISTIANITY IN THE WEST, FOR WHAT WENT BEFORE FOR CHRISTIANITY WAS A SICK JOKE.

            TELE EVANGELISTS & PENTECOSTALS MADE A MOCKERY OF THE MESSAGE OF JESUS OF NAZARETH.

            ROMANISM IS A SICK JOKE!

            PEDOPHILIA IS RAMPANT ALL OVER EUROPE.

            The Dunblane Massacre

            The 100-Year Ban

            Lord Cullen made a decision to withhold “sensitive information” from public eyes by enforcing a 100-year closure order on evidence relating to Hamilton’s activities
            prior to the Dunblane massacre. According to Tamzin Lewis’ article Hidden Secrets of the Dunblane Massacre, the evidence included police reports concerning abuse allegations at the boys clubs, Hamilton’s purported links with
            the Freemasonry and reports about his ‘use and possession of firearms.’ The victims’ families challenged the 100-year ban because they believed that the public had a right to view the documents.

            ITS DECISIONS LIKE THESE THAT ALLOW PEDOPHILES TO GET AWAY FROM BEING DETECTED.

            I HAVE STUDIED ALL THE ISSUES, WHILE CLOWNS LIKE YOU FART OUT YOUR IGNORANCE.

            I KNOW ALL ABOUT MOHAMMEDANISM & I SPEND HOURS EDUCATING MOHAMMEDANS ON THEIR CULT OF DEATH, BUT I WON’T ALLOW ASSHOLES LIKE YOU PRETEND THAT YOUR YHWH IS BETTER THAN THEIR ALLAH.

          • ceili_dancer

            He’s not the one that comes into a party and defecates all over the rug and yell at all the guests to try and be relevant.

          • lapin.grove

            YOU are out of line and I think you might be on the way to be being banned from here.

          • Larry

            YO HO HO,

            Now where did I read that before?

            Acts 4:17-21

            English Standard Version (ESV)
            17 But in order that it may spread no further among the people, let us warn them to speak no more to anyone in this name.” 18 So they called them and charged them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John answered them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge, 20 for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard.” 21 And when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding no way to punish them, because of the people, for all were praising God for what had happened.

            OH YEAH!

            Now I remember!

            Now you know what you can do with your threats, you cretin!

    • RCCA

      Your interpretation of the story of Isaac is mistaken. There is much commentary on this story available online, or consult your local Rabbi.

      • Larry

        YO RCCA

        42 PRINCIPLES OF MAAT 2000 YEARS BEFORE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS

        The Ten Commandments, eight of them at least, were taken
        from the Egyptian Principles of Ma’at written at least 2000 years earlier.

        Written at least 2,000 years before the Ten Commandments of
        Moses, the 42 Principles of Ma’at are one the world’s oldest sources of moral and spiritual instruction. Ma’at, the Ancient Egyptian divine Principle of Truth, Justice, and Righteousness, is the foundation of natural and social order and unity.

        One aspect of ancient Egyptian funerary literature which
        often is mistaken for a codified ethic of Ma’at is Chapter 125 of the Book of the Dead, often called the 42 Declarations of Purity or the Negative Confession. These declarations varied somewhat from tomb to tomb, and so can not be considered a canonical definition of Ma’at. Rather, they appear to express each tomb owner’s individual conception of Ma’at, as well as working as a magical absolution (misdeeds or mistakes made by the tomb owner in life could
        be declared as not having been done, and through the power of the written word, wipe that particular misdeed from the afterlife record of the deceased).

        Many of the lines are similar, however, and they can help to give the student a “flavor” for the sorts of things which Ma’at governed—essentially everything from the most formal to the most mundane aspect of life.

        DID YOU KNOW THAT HUMAN SACRIFICES WERE OFFERED BY AARON TO MOLOCH ON MOUNT SINAI (EXODUS 32; 1 KINGS 11:1-13; AMOS 5:25-27; ACTS 7:42-43)

        DO YOU KNOW THAT JEWS ARE ALLOWED TO OFFER HUMAN SACRIFICES TO MOLOCH TODAY?

        MISHNAH. HE WHO GIVES OF HIS SEED TO MOLECH
        INCURS NO PUNISHMENT UNLESS HE DELIVERS IT TO MOLECH AND CAUSES IT TO PASS THROUGH THE FIRE. IF HE GAVE IT TO MOLECH BUT DID NOT CAUSE IT TO PASS THROUGH THE FIRE, OR THE REVERSE, HE INCURS NO PENALTY, UNLESS HE DOES BOTH.

        Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 64a

        Soncino 1961 Edition, page 437

        Following the Mishnah is a discussion among the sages. One of the Talmud Sages, Rabbi Ashi, comments as follows:

        GEMARA. R. Ashi propounded: What if one caused his blind or sleeping son to pass through, (3) or if he caused his grandson by his son or daughter to pass through? — One at least of these you may solve. For it has been taught: [Any men ... that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall he put to death ...
        And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off

        from among his people;] because he hath given of his seed unto Molech. Why is this stated? — Because it is said, there shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire. From this I know it only of his son or daughter. Whence do I know that it applies to his son’s son or daughter’s son too? From the verse, [And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man] when he giveth of his seed unto Molech
        [and kill him not: Then I will ... cut him off.]

        — Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 64b

        Soncino 1961 Edition, page 439

        Rabbi Dr. Freedman, one of the translators of the Soncino Tractate Sanhedrin, clarifies the passage. In a footnote, Rabbi Dr. Freedman confirms that the Talmud Sages use “seed” to denote living children,

        in the same sense as the Biblical translators understand the term in the above Biblical quotes. In this footnote, Rabbi Dr. Freedman paraphrases the question from Rabbi Ashi:

        3. Is ‘thou shalt not cause to pass’ applicable only to a son who can naturally pass through himself, but not to a blind or sleeping son, who must be led or carried, or does it apply to all?

        Rabbi Dr. Freedman

        Other footnotes within the same context clarify the fine point of distinction being drawn in the Mishnah and subsequent debates among the sages:

        5. Lev. XVIII, 21. This proves that the offence consists of two parts; (I)
        formal delivery to the priests, and (2) causing the seed to pass through the fire.

        Rabbi Dr. Freedman (2)

        5. As two separate offences, proving that giving one’s seed to Molech is not idolatry. The differences [sic] is, that if one sacrificed to Molech, or caused his son to pass through the fire to some other deity, he is
        not punished.

        Rabbi Dr. Freedman (3)

        Following the Mishnah, Sanhedrin 64a and 64b contain a rousing debate between the Sages concerning:

        * the circumstances under which worshipping an idol is idolatry,

        * which idols may be worshipped without indulging in idolatry,

        * which parts of child sacrifice in what combination are punishable, and

        * how children may be sacrificed without violating Leviticus.

    • Elizabeth Borhi

      Yes you are wrong, Catholics in the region are being persecuted and killed also, and in various other countries as well. I don’t know which Church these nuns belong to but in the East there are many Churches (21 I think), that are Catholic, united with the Pope. They have different names from Roman Catholic, (Ukrainian, Coptic, Greek Catholic and so on) but they are just as much part of the Catholic Church as the Roman Catholic.
      If you look at history you will find that Protestants also slaughtered those who did not agree with them. I grew up in England for instance, and there the Catholic Church was outlawed until the 19th Century. At the reformation, monasteries were destroyed and looted, Churches vandalized and many Catholics were executed.
      I don’t know as much about the rest of Europe but I know there were bloody wars there, and that Calvin had people burned at the stake.
      It was a bloodthirsty time as far as religion was concerned. The thing is we learned from our mistakes, Islam hasn’t, not yet.

      • Larry

        YO LIZZY,

        TALMUDIC JUDAISM, ROMANISM & MOHAMMEDANISM ARE THE 3 ABRAHAMIC CULTS OF DEATH!

        THEIR GOD IS A PSYCHOPATHIC MONSTER!

        THE FINAL SOLUTION

        GOD:

        GOD’S SOLUTION: DROWN A FEW MILLION

        HITLER:

        HITLER’S SOLUTION: GAS A FEW MILLION

        “But, but…., says Lizzy, God had a good reason! Man was evil and corrupting God’s plan for a perfect world, not like Hitler’s excuse that the Jews were evil; and corrupting his plan for a perfect Germany.

        TOTALLY DIFFERENT!

        KNOCK, KNOCK, WHO’S THERE?

        -
        Knock knock!

        - Who’s there?

        - It’s Jesus, let me in…

        - Why?

        - I have to save you…

        - From what?

        - From what I’m gonna do to you if you don’t let me in!

        JESUS HAS ALZHEIMERS

        The last recorded words of Jesus were “Surely I come quickly.” That was 2000 years ago. So why hasn’t’ He come back yet?

        MEN WILL NEVER BE FREE UNTIL THE LAST KING (POLITICAN) IS
        STRANGLED WITH THE GUTS OF THE LAST CLERIC!

        DD

        THE NAZIS & SAINT FRANCIS

        Nazi connection to Franciscan Order uncovered near Medjugorje, Bosnia

        The Franciscan order has always denied the evidence of its wartime ties to the Ustasha regime in Croatia. They acted as facilitators and middlemen in moving the contents of the Ustasha Treasury from Croatia to Austria, Italy and finally South America after the war.
        During the Nazi occupation of Bosnia, the Franciscans were closely involved with the Ustashe regime. Not far from Medjugorje in Bosnia (where the Virgin Mary is said to put in nightly appearances for the tens of thousands of Roman Catholic pilgrims), is the Franciscan monastery at Sirkoi Brijeg which has become the centre of
        allegations linking it to disappearance of the Ustashe treasury after the war.

        The Role of the Catholic Church in Yugoslavia’s Holocaust

        Seán Mac Mathúna

        • Nan

          You need to take your meds.

          • dapreach.1@comcast.net

            To ‘Nan’ – He really don’t get, do he??? Not worth the powder it would take to blow him to smitherines! When God gave out brains he thought he said ‘trains’ and he said, “No thanks I already got one for Christmas.”

          • lapin.grove

            You mean he needs to cut back on his DOPE…the kind he spouts and the kind he SMOKES!

    • Nan

      Bullshit. If individuals do bad things that’s on them; the difference between Islam and any religion is that Islam calls for killing those who aren’t Muslim. No other religion does that.

      • Larry

        YO HOMER NAN,

        READ, READ, READ!

        “The killing of apostates, hanging of Gays, the stoning of adulterers”,

        NOW WHERE DID MUHAMMAD GET THOSE IDEAS FOR HIS CULT OF DEATH?

        God now commands that all women must have health hazardous labors for Eve ate the fruit. In no way shape or form is it just that I must pay for the sins of my ancestors. Genesis 3:16

        God caused sibling rivalry by favoring Abel over Cain, with
        absolutely no attempt at justification. This act of favoritism led to
        Abel’s death. Genesis 4:3-5

        Genesis 7:23 He killed, intentionally, every man, woman, and child on the planet save eight of them.

        God commands Hagar go back into servanthood and bear children for her master though she does not want to. Genesis 16:7-9

        Genesis 19:23-25 God burns down a whole city (women and children included) simply because they were supposedly homosexual.

        Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and that
        the Lord slew him. How was Er wicked? The Bible doesn’t give us this
        bit of information, only that Er was wicked in the sight of the Lord.
        Genesis 38:7

        Genesis 38:10 God murders Onan for refusing to commit incest with his sister in law.

        Exodus 12:29 God repeatedly tells Moses exactly what calamity he
        will next visit upon the Egyptians if the Pharaoh does not allow the
        Israelites to be set free from slavery. Then he tells Moses (also
        repeatedly) that he will harden Pharaoh’s heart, so that he will refuse
        to allow the Israelites to go, thus bringing a calamity upon his own
        people, as well as showing him the awesome power of the Israelites’
        Lord. This occurs over and over, bringing calamity upon calamity upon the Egyptian people.

        What is troubling about this verse is that when god “hardens the
        pharaoh’s heart” he is interfering with the Pharaoh’s free will and
        ultimately bringing punishment on the Egyptians for something they are not responsible for. As a final punishment god decides to kill all the first born of Egypt. The lord reduced himself to murdering innocent kids when he could have simply freed the Israelites himself with his “omnipotent” power.

        God punishes children for the sins of their fathers, unto the third
        and fourth generations. Punishing a child for the sins of their
        ancestors is not very just. Exodus 20:5&34:7

        God endorses slavery. He even set up laws as to how slavery was to
        be carried out, and goes as far as Okaying beating them. Exodus 21:2-6

        God sanctioned the selling of ones daughter. How can any being tell
        another to literally sell their child into slavery? Disgusting!
        Exodus 21:7

        Exodus 22:18 God orders the death of witches, sorceresses and
        anyone who practices magic. Sadly enough, this verse was justification for the Inquisition.

        Exodus 32:27 God ordered to be killed, 3,000 Israelites for no
        greater crime than worshipping a golden calf. I don’t know about you
        but death is a pretty harsh fucking punishment.

        Leviticus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents
        and death for adultery. Gee, with these types of laws the population
        should be almost nil by now.

        Once again god is a homophobe, or at the very least, a bigot. Leviticus 20:13

        Handicapped people must not approach the altar. Leviticus 21:16-23

        Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shill ye eat.”

        Leviticus 27:28-29 God ordered and allowed human sacrifices.

        Numbers 16:27 God buries alive Korah and his family.

        Numbers 16:35 God killed 250 Levite princes who disagreed with
        Moses’ leadership. He was so bloodthirsty that he wanted to slay more until he was talked out of it. Later he put a plague upon 14,700 Jews who thought there was something wrong in killing 250 princes.

        Numbers 21:1-3 God utterly destroyed the Canaanites at Hormah as a favor to the Jews.

        Numbers 21:27-35 God abetted Moses in utterly destroying the Amorites at Heshbon – “…the men, the women, and the little ones.”

        Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be saved for later raping by Moses’ soldiers.

        Deuteronomy 3:3-7 God ordered Moses’ army to “utterly destroy” 60 cities, killing all the women and children within!

        Deuteronomy 7:12 God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations. He even adds, “show no mercy unto them”.

        Deuteronomy 20:16 God orders that we kill everything that breathes in the cities that he gives us for an inheritance

        A bastard can’t attend church “even to his tenth generation.” As if denying an innocent child rights to worship isn’t cruel. Deuteronomy 23:2

        • Nan

          Jesus fulfilled the law and brought us a New Covenant.

          • Larry

            OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,
            SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,

            THE SLAUGHTERING IS OVER?

            THE NEW COVENANT IS?

            YHWH SLAUGHTERS YAHSHUA FOR YOUR SINS?

            ITS ONE BLOODY, SADO/MASOCHISTIC CULT.

            AND ALL THIS GOES BACK TO ABRAHAM & ISAAC?

            THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF HUMAN SACRIFICES, STARTED BY AARON ON MOUNT SINAI (EXODUS 32; 1 KINGS 11:1-13; AMOS 5:25-27; ACTS 7:42-43)

            MISHNAH. HE WHO GIVES OF HIS SEED TO MOLECH INCURS NO PUNISHMENT UNLESS HE DELIVERS IT TO MOLECH AND CAUSES IT TO PASS THROUGH THE
            FIRE. IF HE GAVE IT TO MOLECH BUT DID NOT CAUSE IT TO PASS THROUGH THE FIRE, OR THE REVERSE, HE INCURS NO PENALTY, UNLESS HE DOES BOTH.

            Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 64a

            Soncino 1961 Edition, page 437

            Following the Mishnah is a discussion among the sages. One of the Talmud Sages, Rabbi Ashi, comments as follows:

            GEMARA. R. Ashi propounded: What if one caused his blind or sleeping son to pass through, (3) or if he caused his grandson by his son or daughter to pass through? — One at least of these you may solve. For it has been taught: [Any
            men ... that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall he put to death ...
            And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off

            from among his people;] because he hath given of his seed unto Molech. Why is this stated? — Because it is said, there shall not be found among you any one

            that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire. From this I knowit only of his son or daughter. Whence do I know that it applies to his son’sson or daughter’s son too? From the verse, [And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man] when he giveth of his seed unto Molech [and kill him not: Then I will ... cut him off.]

            — Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 64b

            Soncino 1961 Edition, page 439

            Rabbi Dr. Freedman, one of the translators of the Soncino Tractate Sanhedrin,clarifies the passage. In a footnote, Rabbi Dr. Freedman confirms that theTalmud Sages use “seed” to denote living children,

            in the same sense as the Biblical translators understand the term in the aboveBiblical quotes. In this footnote, Rabbi Dr. Freedman paraphrases the questionfrom Rabbi Ashi:

            3. Is ‘thou shalt not cause to pass’ applicable only to a son who can naturallypass through himself, but not to a blind or sleeping son, who must be led or carried, or does it apply to all?

            Rabbi Dr. Freedman

            Other footnotes within the same context clarify the fine point of distinctionbeing drawn in the Mishnah and subsequent debates among the sages:

            5. Lev. XVIII, 21. This proves that the offence consists of two parts; (I)formal delivery to the priests, and (2) causing the seed to pass through the fire.

            Rabbi Dr. Freedman (2)

            5. As two separate offences, proving that giving one’s seed to Molech is not idolatry. The differences [sic] is, that if one sacrificed to Molech, or caused his son to pass through the fire to some other deity, he is not punished.

            Rabbi Dr. Freedman (3)

            Following the Mishnah, Sanhedrin 64a and 64b contain a rousing debate between the Sages concerning:

            * the circumstances under which worshipping an idol is idolatry,

            * which idols may be worshipped without indulging in idolatry,

            * which parts of child sacrifice in what combination are punishable, and

            * how children may be sacrificed without violating Leviticus.

            Jews continued to offer Human Sacrifices up to the time of the captivity in Babylon.
            It was in Babylon where YHWH evolved from a tribal god to a Universal God & where Ezra EDITED & COMPILED a New Jewish Religion – Talmudic Judaism.

          • ceili_dancer

            You really do have a fixation on the Old Testament. Especially the more violent ones. Are you typing with one hand while the other is busy?

          • Larry

            Pharmacy called and said your meds are in.

            Google Red Tube if you want wanking material!

          • ceili_dancer

            Wow, I’m surprised it wasn’t in all caps. Have you actually stopped to breath or are you just continuing your one man war against God?

          • lapin.grove

            Amen sister!!

        • ceili_dancer

          Excellent cut and paste of a previous comment.

        • Eric Siverson

          What is your religion Jew I bet or maybe atheist . sound just like a Rabbi I heard

          • Larry

            HEAR O ISRAEL THE LORD IS ……A VOLCANO!!!

            Nahum 1:5-6 The mountains quake at him, and the hills
            melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are
            thrown down by him.

            WAS GOD A VOLCANO?

            YES! GOD – YHWH/MOLOCH/BAAL/ALLAH WAS A
            VOLCANO-VOLCANIC ACTIVITY!!

            List of Biblical verses that suggest God was a volcano

            This list of Bible verses that prove beyond all reasonable doubt god was a volcano will be regularly updated and
            re-circulated. If you would like to submit some verses for the collection then please add them as a comment.

            Exodus 3:12 And God said, “I will be with you. And this
            will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain.”

            Exodus 13:21 By day the LORD went ahead of them in a pillar of cloud to guide them on their way and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light, so that they could travel by day or night.

            Exodus 15:7 In the greatness of your majesty you threw down those who opposed you. You unleashed your burning anger; it consumed them like stubble.

            Exodus 19:18 Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, and the whole mountain trembled violently.

            Exodus 24:17 To the Israelites the glory of the LORD looked like a consuming fire on top of the mountain.

            Exodus: 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he
            thought to do unto his people.

            Exodus 40:38 So the cloud of the LORD was over the tabernacle by day, and fire was in the cloud by night,
            in the sight of all the Israelites during all their travels.

            Leviticus 9:24 Fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed the burnt offering and the fat portions on the altar. And when all the people saw it, they shouted for joy and fell facedown.

            Leviticus 10:2 So fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed them, and they died before the LORD.

            Leviticus 10:6 Then Moses said to Aaron and his sons Eleazar and Ithamar, “Do not let your hair become unkempt and do not tear your clothes, or you will die and the LORD will be angry with the whole community. But your relatives, all the Israelites, may mourn for those the LORD has destroyed by fire.

            Numbers 11:1 Now the people complained about their hardships in the hearing of the LORD, and when he heard them his anger was aroused. Then fire from the LORD burned among them and consumed some of the outskirts of the camp.

            Numbers 11:3 So that place was called Taberah, because fire from the LORD had burned among them.

            Numbers 14:14 And they will tell the inhabitants of this land about it. They have already heard that you, LORD, are with these people and that you, LORD, have been seen face to face, that your cloud stays over them, and that you go before them in a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night.

            Numbers 16:35 And fire came out from the LORD and consumed the 250 men who were offering the incense.

            Numbers 26:10 The earth opened its mouth and swallowed them along with Korah, whose followers died when the fire devoured the 250 men. And they served as a warning sign.

            Deuteronomy 1:33 who went ahead of you on your journey, in fire by night and in a cloud by day, to search out places for you to camp and to show you the way you should go.

            Deuteronomy 4:11 You came near and stood at the foot of the mountain while it blazed with fire to the very heavens, with black clouds and deep darkness.

            Deuteronomy 4:12 Then the LORD spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice.

            Deuteronomy 4:15 You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully.

            Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.

            Deuteronomy 4:33 Has any other people heard the voice of God speaking out of fire, as you have, and lived?

            Deuteronomy 4:36 From heaven he made you hear his voice to discipline you. On earth he showed you his great fire, and you heard his words from out of the fire.

            Deuteronomy 5:4 The LORD spoke to you face to face out of the fire on the mountain.

            Deuteronomy 5:5 At that time I stood between the LORD and you to declare to you the word of the LORD, because you were afraid of the fire and did not go up the mountain.

            Deuteronomy 5:22 These are the commandments the LORD
            proclaimed in a loud voice to your whole assembly there on the mountain from out of the fire, the cloud and the deep darkness; and he added nothing more. Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me.

            Deuteronomy 5:23 When you heard the voice out of the darkness, while the mountain was ablaze with fire, all the leaders of your tribes and your elders came to me.

            Deuteronomy 5:24 And you said, “The LORD our God has shown us his glory and his majesty, and we have heard his voice from the fire. Today we have seen that a person can live even if God speaks with them.

            Deuteronomy 5:25 But now, why should we die? This great fire will consume us, and we will die if we hear the voice of the LORD our God any longer.

            Deuteronomy 5:26 For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived?

            Deuteronomy 9:3 But be assured today that the LORD your God is the one who goes across ahead of you like a devouring fire. He will destroy them; he will subdue them before you. And you will drive them out and annihilate them quickly, as the LORD has promised you.

            Deuteronomy 9:10 The LORD gave me two stone tablets inscribed by the finger of God. On them were all the commandments the LORD proclaimed to you on the mountain out of the fire, on the day of the assembly.

            Deuteronomy 9:15 So I turned and went down from the mountain while it was ablaze with fire.
            And the two tablets of the covenant were in my hands.

            Deuteronomy 10:4 The LORD wrote on these tablets what he had written before, the Ten Commandments he had proclaimed to you on the mountain, out of the fire, on the day of the assembly. And the LORD gave them to me.

            Deuteronomy 18:16 For this is what you asked of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, “Let us not hear the voice of the LORD our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die.”

            Deuteronomy 33:2 He said: “The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes.

            2 Samuel 22:9 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of
            it.

  • Larry

    “The killing of apostates, hanging of Gays, the stoning of adulterers”,

    NOW WHERE DID MUHAMMAD GET THOSE IDEAS FOR HIS CULT OF DEATH?

    God now commands that all women must have health hazardous labors for Eve ate the fruit. In no way shape or form is it just that I must pay for the sins of my ancestors. Genesis 3:16

    God caused sibling rivalry by favoring Abel over Cain, with absolutely no attempt at justification. This act of favoritism led to Abel’s death. Genesis 4:3-5

    Genesis 7:23 He killed, intentionally, every man, woman, and child on the planet save eight of them.

    God commands Hagar go back into servanthood and bear children for her master though she does not want to. Genesis 16:7-9

    Genesis 19:23-25 God burns down a whole city (women and children included) simply because they were supposedly homosexual.

    Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and that the Lord slew him. How was Er wicked? The Bible doesn’t give us this bit of information, only that Er was wicked in the sight of the Lord. Genesis 38:7

    Genesis 38:10 God murders Onan for refusing to commit incest with his sister in law.

    Exodus 12:29 God repeatedly tells Moses exactly what calamity he will next visit upon the Egyptians if the Pharaoh does not allow the Israelites to be set free from slavery. Then he tells Moses (also repeatedly) that he will harden Pharaoh’s heart, so that he will refuse to allow the Israelites to go, thus bringing a calamity upon his own people, as well as showing him the awesome power of the Israelites’ Lord. This
    occurs over and over, bringing calamity upon calamity upon the Egyptian people.
    What is troubling about this verse is that when god “hardens the pharaoh’s heart” he is interfering with the Pharaoh’s free will and ultimately bringing punishment on the Egyptians for something they are not responsible for. As a final punishment god decides to kill all the first born of Egypt. The lord reduced himself to murdering innocent kids when he could have simply freed the Israelites himself with his “omnipotent” power.

    God punishes children for the sins of their fathers, unto the third and fourth generations. Punishing a child for the sins of their ancestors is not very just. Exodus 20:5&34:7

    God endorses slavery. He even set up laws as to how slavery was to be carried out, and goes as far as Okaying beating them. Exodus 21:2-6

    God sanctioned the selling of ones daughter. How can any being tell another to literally sell their child into slavery? Disgusting! Exodus 21:7

    Exodus 22:18 God orders the death of witches, sorceresses and anyone who practices magic. Sadly enough, this verse was justification for the Inquisition.

    Exodus 32:27 God ordered to be killed, 3,000 Israelites for no greater crime than worshipping a golden calf. I don’t know about you but death is a pretty harsh fucking punishment.

    Leviticus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents and death for adultery. Gee, with these types of laws the population should be almost nil by now.

    Once again god is a homophobe, or at the very least, a bigot. Leviticus 20:13

    Handicapped people must not approach the altar. Leviticus 21:16-23

    Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shill ye eat.”

    Leviticus 27:28-29 God ordered and allowed human sacrifices.

    Numbers 16:27 God buries alive Korah and his family.

    Numbers 16:35 God killed 250 Levite princes who disagreed with Moses’ leadership. He was so bloodthirsty that he wanted to slay more until he was talked out of it. Later he put a plague upon 14,700 Jews who thought there was something wrong in killing 250 princes.

    Numbers 21:1-3 God utterly destroyed the Canaanites at Hormah as a favor to the Jews.

    Numbers 21:27-35 God abetted Moses in utterly destroying the Amorites at Heshbon – “…the men, the women, and the little ones.”

    Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be saved for later raping by Moses’ soldiers.

    Deuteronomy 3:3-7 God ordered Moses’ army to “utterly destroy” 60 cities, killing all the women and children within!

    Deuteronomy 7:12 God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations. He even adds, “show no mercy unto them”.

    Deuteronomy 20:16 God orders that we kill everything that breathes in the cities that he gives us for an inheritance

    A bastard can’t attend church “even to his tenth generation.” As if denying an innocent child rights to
    worship isn’t cruel. Deuteronomy 23:2

  • virgo56

    I have been watching/searching the so called main stream media for any news about this abduction and the earlier one of the Bishops. Well they are found to be concerned with the fate of the Selka of CRA who brutalized the CAR population and now on the receiving end, so expected and as their ME masters wish, no news at all.