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		<title>Stakelbeck on Terror Show: Christian Persecution in Muslim Lands</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 19:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Ibrahim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently appeared on the &#8220;Stakelbeck on Terror&#8221; show to discuss my new book, Crucified Again: Exposing Islam’ New War on Christians, with Erick Stakelbeck &#60;iframe width=&#8221;320&#8243; height=&#8221;180&#8243; src=&#8221;http://cbn.com/tv/embedplayer.aspx?bcid=2399502539001&#8243;  frameborder=&#8221;0&#8243; allowfullscreen&#62;&#60;/iframe&#62;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently appeared on the &#8220;Stakelbeck on Terror&#8221; show to discuss my new book, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1621570258/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1621570258&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=uhurnetw-20">Crucified Again: Exposing Islam’ New War on Christians</a>, </em>with Erick Stakelbeck</p>
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		<title>Crucified Again &#8212; Christian Persecution on Sun News</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 05:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Ibrahim</dc:creator>
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		<title>Graphic Images of Christian Persecution Under Islam</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Enza</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This page contains graphic images that tell of Christian persecution under Islam &#8212; images that rarely if ever appear on mainstream media.  It is meant to supplement the pictures that appear in Crucified Again: Exposing Islam&#8217;s New War on Christians. While graphic in nature, we feel it is necessary to show these pictures to give [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This page contains graphic images that tell of Christian persecution under Islam &#8212; images that rarely if ever appear on mainstream media.  It is meant to supplement the pictures that appear in <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1621570258/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1621570258&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=uhurnetw-20" target="_blank">Crucified Again: Exposing Islam&#8217;s New War on Christians</a></em>.</p>
<p>While graphic in nature, we feel it is necessary to show these pictures to give a better understanding of the true sufferings of Christians under Islam.</p>
<p>The following pictures are from the 2010 Islamic raid on the Our Lady of Salvation Church in Iraq.  Armed jihadis stormed the church during worship service, opened fire indiscriminately at the Christian worshipers, before detonating their suicide vests, which were &#8220;filled with ball bearings to kill as many people as possible.&#8221;</p>
<div id="attachment_3330" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 640px"><a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/_admin/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/111.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3330 " src="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/_admin/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/111-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="630" height="473" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Dead Christian baby, victim of the jihad.</p></div>
<div id="attachment_3321" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 640px"><a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/_admin/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/5.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3321 " src="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/_admin/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/5-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="630" height="473" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Mutilated carcass of one of the jihadis, after detonating his suicide vest.</p></div>
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		<title>Islam&#8217;s New War on Christians: Raymond Ibrahim Interview with CBN&#8217;s Gary Lane</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 21:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Ibrahim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My recent interview on Gary Lane&#8217;s the Global Lane about my new book and its topic, Crucified Again: Exposing Islam&#8217; New War on Christians]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My recent interview on Gary Lane&#8217;s the <a href="http://blogs.cbn.com/globallane/archive/2013/05/10/islams-new-war-on-christians-raymond-ibrahim-interview.aspx">Global Lane</a> about my new book and its topic, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1621570258/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1621570258&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=uhurnetw-20" target="_blank">Crucified Again: Exposing Islam&#8217; New War on Christians</a></em></p>
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		<title>Assassination Plot Points to Perilous Position of Patriarch</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 17:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Enza</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Ralph H. Sidway, guest contributor</p>
<p>Recently a man was arrested in Turkey in connection with a plot to assassinate Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople.  The alleged plot was set up to slay the Patriarch on the 560th anniversary of the Fall of Constantinople on May 29. You can read a couple of articles covering different aspects of the story at <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/10/plot-to-kill-orthodox-patriarch-bartholomew-_n_3253191.html?utm_hp_ref=religion">Huffington Post</a> and at <a href="http://www.todayszaman.com/news-315022-plot-to-assasinate-patriarch-bartholomew-uncovered-one-detained.html">Today&#8217;s Zaman</a> (a Turkish news website).</p>
<p>What I would like to draw attention to, so as to provide some context for this story, is the very real threat to Ecumenical Patriarchate (and indeed to all Christian clergy) over the past several hundred years.</p>
<p>Ever since the Fall of Constantinople to the Muslim armies in 1453, Christians in what is now Turkey have been reduced to second-class citizens (and persecuted nearly to extinction) through the institution of the <em>dhimma</em>, the contract of protection which subjugates Christians to Muslim rule under humiliating, demeaning terms. Under the dhimma, Christians have to pay the exorbitant <em>jizya</em> tax, cannot build new churches, cannot repair existing ones, cannot share their faith outside their church buildings, cannot convert Muslims, etc. One aspect of the dhimma  which is most terrifying is the concept of &#8220;collective punishment.&#8221; If one Christian violates the dhimma contract, Muslims may attack any or all Christians.</p>
<p>The real world applications of this practice during the Ottoman era were severe indeed. As Fr. Alexander Schmemann notes in his thorough history of the Orthodox Church, <em>The Historical Road of Eastern Orthodoxy:</em></p>
<blockquote><p>[The Church's] position was very often a terrible one, and it is impossible to describe all the suffering, humiliation, and outright persecution the Church was obliged to undergo in this age, which was dark indeed&#8230; According to Islam, Christians were <em>rayah</em> or cattle, the conquered, the unbelievers, and they had no real rights or citizenship&#8230; In some places every Christian was slaughtered. Russia alone intervened on their behalf, but this frequently resulted only in a worsening of their position.<a title="" href="#_ftn1"><sup><sup>[1]</sup></sup></a></p></blockquote>
<p>From the very beginning of Muslim rule over Constantinople and the former Byzantine Empire, the Ecumenical Patriarchate was the chief tool in Islamic control and subjugation of the Christian population. In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, the Christians&#8217; plight “worsened perceptibly.” To quote Fr Schmemann again:</p>
<blockquote><p> The rights of the patriarch were gradually reduced to nothing; all that was left to him was the &#8220;right&#8221; of being responsible for the Christians. In the course of seventy-three years in the eighteenth century, the patriarch was replaced forty-eight times! Some were deposed and reinstalled as many as five times; many were put to torture&#8230; Churches were defiled, relics cut to pieces, and the Holy Gifts profaned. Christian pogroms became more and more frequent&#8230; Their situation grew worse, especially as national self-consciousness and dreams of freedom arose within the empire. Greeks in Turkey and Constantinople paid for the uprising of 1821 by terrible slaughter. That year was marked by the martyrdom of Patriarch Gregory V.<a title="" href="#_ftn2"><sup><sup>[2]</sup></sup></a></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/_admin/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Martyrdom-of-Patriarch-Gregory-V.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4053" src="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/_admin/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Martyrdom-of-Patriarch-Gregory-V-300x201.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="201" /></a></p>
<p>John Sanidopoulos, who runs the MYSTAGOGY blog, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2013/03/patriarchs-of-constantinople-killed.html">documents the Ecumenical Patriarchs killed under the Muslim Turks:</a></span></p>
<blockquote><p>Listed below are the venerable Patriarchs of Constantinople who suffered martyric deaths under the Turks and paved the way towards freedom for the Greek people.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Cyril Loukaris</strong> &#8211; The Protomartyr of the Patriarchs, on 27 June 1638 he was strangled and his body was flung into the Bosporus.</li>
<li><strong>Cyril II Kontaris</strong> &#8211; Hanged in 1639</li>
<li><strong>Parthenios I</strong> &#8211; Poisoned in 1644</li>
<li><strong>Parthenios II</strong> &#8211; Strangled in 1651</li>
<li><strong>Parthenios III</strong> &#8211; Hanged in 1657</li>
<li><strong>Gabriel II</strong> &#8211; Hanged in 1657. He was Patriarch for only 12 days.</li>
<li><strong>Meletios II</strong> &#8211; After being tortured brutally with a chain and log, he died of his injuries in 1769.</li>
<li><strong>Gregory V</strong> &#8211; Hanged on Holy Pascha in 1821 at the Patriarchal Gate, which remains closed today since that time. His death was the banner of the Greek Revolution.</li>
<li><strong>Cyril VI</strong> &#8211; Hanged on 18 April 1821 while in exile in Andrionople.</li>
<li><strong>Evgenios II</strong> &#8211; Successor to Gregory V, he was surrendered to the mob, and died from injuries on 22 July 1822.</li>
</ul>
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<p>Important to keep in mind is the role played not only by the faithful Patriarch Martyrs, but by other clergy and even monastics in the eventual liberation of Greece. Two notable examples of unlikely clerical heroes are <a href="http://orthodoxwiki.org/Cosmas_of_Aetolia">St. Kosmas of Aitolia</a> of the late eighteenth century (who greatly encouraged and helped educate the Greek people by traveling to hundreds of villages and cities, founding schools and keeping alive the Orthodox faith until he was martyred by the Turkish Muslims in 1779), and <a href="http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2009/07/papoulakis-saint-joachim-of-vatopaidi-1.html">St. Joachim Papoulakis</a> of the early nineteenth century (a monk from Mt Athos, who helped provide food, material support and necessities to the Greek people in aid of the freedom movement).</p>
<p>But the amazing contribution of the “higher clergy,” the bishops, is very important. Again we turn to John Sanidopoulos, who translates an <a href="http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2013/03/blood-stained-cassocks-and-1821.html">historical summary by political scientist Konstandinos Holevas</a>:</p>
<p><strong>Blood-Stained Cassocks and 1821</strong></p>
<p>Without the Orthodox clergy the great national campaign of 1821 would not have succeeded. Some propagandists of outdated ideologies deny the role of the Bishops and speak only of the &#8220;lower clergy&#8221;. They are wrong both in terms of terminology and in their historical perspective.</p>
<p>In the Orthodox Church the higher clergy are the Bishops, the Presbyters (priests) and the Deacons. To the lower clergy belong the Subdeacon and the Reader, who are laymen. The French Consul François Pouqueville writes that 100 Patriarchs and Bishops were killed during the Turkish Occupation and the Struggle [of 1821]. Before 1821 there were 80 movements made by Greeks, and most were led by Bishops. Remember that from 1680 to 1700 Eastern Central Greece was free after two Bishops revolted, Hierotheos of Thebes and Philotheos of Salona.</p>
<p>1821 is stained with the blood of Patriarch Gregory V and Patriarch Cyril VI, from Andrionople. Besides Bishop Germanos of Patras, who blessed the banner at Holy Lavra Monastery and in Patras, Isaiah of Salona declared Revolution in Fokida and was sacrificed in Alamana. The Patmian Patriarch of Alexandria, Theophilos Pagkostas, went to Patmos and raised the banner of revolution. From then he never returned to his throne.</p>
<p>Most Bishops of Peloponnesos were imprisoned by the Pasha of Tripoli from the beginning of March 1821, and only two were found alive when the Greeks entered after 6.5 months. Let us not forget this sacrifice of the shepherds.</p>
<p>In Cyprus, Archbishop Kyprianos had joined the Filiki Etairia (Society of Friends). The Turks were informed and on 9 July 1821 there was a great slaughter in Nicosia. Kyprianos together with all the Bishops and Archimandrites were killed together with the elders.</p>
<p>Many other Bishops played a significant role in the Struggle, such as Anthimos of Elos, Theodoritos of Vresthena, Joseph of Androusa, and Neophytos of Talantio (Livadeia). And in the Grand Exodus of Messolonghi, Bishop Joseph of Rogon, aid to Metropolitan Porphyrios of Arta, was sacrificed while blowing the windmill.</p>
<p>All who lived at that time were confessors: Bishops, priests, simple monastics, all proclaimed their &#8220;presence&#8221;. Our [Greek] Freedom is owed primarily to the Blood-stained Cassocks.</p>
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<p>Eventually, the Serbs and Bulgarians threw off the Muslim yoke as well.<a title="" href="#_ftn3"><sup><sup>[3]</sup></sup></a> It was this series of humiliating defeats during the nineteenth century, and losses in the Balkan Wars of the early twentieth century, which enraged the Turkish Muslims, who turned on the weakest elements of their Christian population, precipitating their infamous <a href="http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm">genocide against the Christians of Armenia, Greece, Pontus, and Syria</a>, massacring over 3.6 million men women and children (some dying from starvation, disease and the forced deportations) from 1894 to 1922. Sporadic persecutions against remaining Christians extended well into the 1950s, perhaps the worst example being the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_riots">Istanbul Pogroms of 1955</a>, which dealt a crushing blow to the Orthodox Christian community in Turkey. The Greek population of Turkey had already been reduced to about 120,000 in 1927 (following the main period of the Orthodox Christian Genocide); by 1978 it had collapsed to only 7,000. According to the <a href="http://home.att.net/~dimostenis/greektr.html">Human Rights Watch</a>, by 2006 there were only 2500 Greeks in Turkey.</p>
<p>Thus we see, from the very beginning of Muslim occupation of former Byzantine Christian lands, persecution of not merely lay Christians, but of all the clergy, including the Patriarchs, was standard practice for the Muslim Turks. Brutal and prolonged persecution, pressure and institutionalized discrimination has almost exterminated the Orthodox Christian population from what was once a flourishing Christian civilization. In the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, the Muslim Turks mercilessly targeted the weakest of the weak, setting an example that <a href="http://www.meforum.org/3434/armenian-genocide-hitler">Hitler extolled in his plans for his Third Reich</a>.</p>
<p>When it comes to Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, the Turks do not by any stretch of the imagination have a “rabble rouser” on their hands. Recently, yes, His All Holiness has <a href="http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=17116">taken a vocal stand against converting the great Hagia Sophia museum into a mosque</a>.<a title="" href="#_ftn4"><sup><sup>[4]</sup></sup></a> He has also been persistent in asking for the Turkish government to return the <a href="http://hellenicleaders.com/tag/halki-seminary/">Halki Seminary</a> to the Patriarchate and allow it to reopen. The seminary, closed by the Turks in 1971, was the only indigenous Orthodox seminary in Turkey. Orthodox clergy since then must pursue theological studies overseas, yet bishops must meet ridiculously stringent requirements of Turkish citizenship in order to serve at the Phanar, the seat of the Patriarchate. +Bartholomew has also stood valiantly against suggestions by the Turks that the title &#8220;Ecumenical&#8221; be removed from his office.</p>
<p>And that’s not all. The ancient thread of crude and dangerous persecution from the Ottoman days is strong as ever in modern, moderate Turkey. As journalist <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/opinion/08iht-edgage.1.15977058.html?_r=0">Nicholas Gage pointedly observed back in 2008</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Ecumenical Patriarchate, which was established in the fourth century and once possessed holdings as vast as those of the Vatican, has been reduced to a small, besieged enclave in a decaying corner of Istanbul called the Phanar, or Lighthouse. Almost all of its property has been seized by successive Turkish governments, its schools have been closed and its prelates are taunted by extremists who demonstrate almost daily outside the Patriarchate, calling for its ouster from Turkey.</p>
<p>The ecumenical patriarch, Bartholomew I, is often jeered and threatened when he ventures outside his walled enclave. He is periodically burned in effigy by Turkish chauvinists and Muslim fanatics. Government bureaucrats take pleasure in harassing him, summoning him to their offices to question and berate him about irrelevant issues, blocking his efforts to make repairs in the few buildings still under his control, and issuing veiled threats about what he says and does when he travels abroad.</p></blockquote>
<p>In my book, <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/FacingIslam"><em>Facing Islam</em></a>, I express my concerns over some of His Holiness&#8217; statements, notably in his book, <em>Encountering the Mystery</em>, where he writes of a “dialogue of loving truth” with Islam, and of Orthodoxy having for centuries “coexisted peacefully” with Islam, and where he also projects the chimera of an “interfaith commitment&#8230; still felt and lived by Greeks [and] Turks”<a title="" href="#_ftn5"><sup><sup>[5]</sup></sup></a>  as an example for all to follow.</p>
<p>Elsewhere in his book, he goes even further, calling for the tearing down of “the wall of separation between East and West, between Muslims and Christians, between all religions of the world,” and writing warmly, “One who achieves the state of inner peace in relation to God is a true Muslim.”<a title="" href="#_ftn6"><sup><sup>[6]</sup></sup></a></p>
<p>Such unfortunate effusions obscure the Truth of Christianity, giving the impression that +Bartholomew leans towards some sort of syncretic, relativistic creed, embracing the equal validity of all religions and especially of Islam and Christianity.</p>
<p>Yet we must understand such assurances in context, as being carefully crafted to pacify both the hostile government under whose thumb His All Holiness struggles to lead his flock, as well as the sea of easily agitated Muslims who surround the tiny island of Orthodoxy in Istanbul. No doubt +Bartholomew’s concern is to avert Muslim aggression not so much against himself, but against the dwindling Christian population of Turkey, which has endured nearly six centuries of relentless persecution and pressure from their Islamic masters. Sounding a falsely irenic tone is too often a sad necessity for those oppressed under Islamic rule.</p>
<p>While we may be heartened by the brave resolve and serene faith of Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew in the face of such overwhelming odds, if Muslim history is any indication, he may yet earn his heavenly crown in a far more abrupt fashion than his longsuffering, patient endurance of trials. May it not be so, and may God grant His All Holiness many years! And may we even see the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a Christian church!</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Ralph Sidway is an Orthodox Christian researcher and writer, and author of </em>Facing Islam: What the Ancient Church has to say about the Religion of Muhammad<em>.  He operates the <a href="http://facingislam.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Facing Islam</a> blog</em>.</p></blockquote>
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<p><a title="" href="#_ftnref1"><sup><sup>[1]</sup></sup></a> Fr. Alexander Schmemann, <em>The Historical Road of Eastern Orthodoxy</em>, Chapter 5—The Dark Ages; Christians Under Turkish Rule; <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/2657380/The-Historical-Road-of-Eastern-Orthodoxy-by-Alexander-Schmemann">Online Edition</a>.</p>
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<p><a title="" href="#_ftnref2"><sup><sup>[2]</sup></sup></a> Ibid.</p>
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<p><a title="" href="#_ftnref3"><sup><sup>[3]</sup></sup></a> The Serbian Revolution began even earlier than the Greek, 1804-1815, and led to “autonomy” and a constitution in 1835, with full independence in 1867; Bulgaria’s freedom had some help from Russia via the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-1878.</p>
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<p><a title="" href="#_ftnref4"><sup><sup>[4]</sup></sup></a> Originally the grandest church in Christendom, the basilica of Hagia Sophia (“Holy Wisdom”) was built by the Emperor Justinian and dedicated in 537, but was converted to a mosque in 1453 after the Muslim conquest of the city; earlier Hagia Sophia basilicas in Constantinople dated back to the fourth century. This building was a Christian church for over 900 years before the Great City fell.</p>
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<p><a title="" href="#_ftnref5"><sup><sup>[5]</sup></sup></a> Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, <em>Encountering the Mystery</em>, Doubleday, 2008, pp xxxvii, 196, 174.</p>
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<p><a title="" href="#_ftnref6"><sup><sup>[6]</sup></sup></a> Ibid., 205, 209.</p>
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		<title>Islamic Forced Conversions &#8212; Past and Present</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 14:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Ibrahim</dc:creator>
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<p data-num="3" data-key="tlhti">The lost history of Christians forced to convert to Islam—or die—is reemerging, figuratively and literally. According to the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22499327" target="_blank">BBC</a>: “Pope Francis has proclaimed the first saints of his pontificate in a ceremony [last Sunday] at the Vatican—a list which includes 800 victims of an atrocity carried out by Ottoman soldiers in 1480.They were beheaded in the southern Italian town of Otranto after refusing to convert to Islam.”</p>
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<p data-num="4" data-key="tbaoc">The BBC adds in a sidebar: “The ‘Martyrs of Otranto’ were 813 Italians beheaded for defying demands by Turkish invaders to renounce Christianity.  The Turks had been sent by Mohammed II, who had already captured the ‘second Rome’ of Constantinople.”</p>
<p data-num="5" data-key="httei">Historical texts throughout the centuries are filled with similar anecdotes, including the “60 Martyrs of Gaza,” Christian soldiers who were executed for refusing Islam during the 7<sup>th</sup> century Islamic invasion of Jerusalem. Seven centuries later, during the <a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/the-importance-of-witnesses-newly-translated-georgian-christian-martyrdoms-expose-islamic-jihad-continuity/" target="_blank">Islamic invasion of Georgia</a>, Christians refusing to convert were forced into their church and set on fire. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Witnesses-Christ-Christian-Neomartyrs-1437-1860/dp/0881411965/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1368570963&amp;sr=1-1-catcorr&amp;keywords=witnesses+for+christ+neomartyrs"><em>Witnesses for Christ</em></a> lists 200 anecdotes of Christians killed—including some burned at the stake, thrown on iron spikes, dismembered, stoned, stabbed, shot at, drowned, pummeled to death, impaled and crucified—for refusing to embrace Islam.</p>
<p data-num="7" data-key="ihiwg">If history is shocking, the fact is, today, Christians—men, women, and children—are <em>still</em> being forced to convert to Islam.  Pope Francis <a href="http://www.onislam.net/english/news/global/462616-pope-canonizes-saints-who-refused-islam.html">alluded to their sufferings</a> during the same ceremony: “As we venerate the martyrs of Otranto, let us ask God to sustain those many Christians who, in these times and in many parts of the world, right now, still suffer violence, and give them the courage and fidelity to respond to evil with good.”</p>
<p data-num="8" data-key="csrra">Consider some recent anecdotes:</p>
<p data-num="9" data-key="ipakt">In Pakistan, a “devoted Christian” was <a href="http://www.persecution.org/2010/03/23/muslims-murder-pakistani-christian-with-axe-blows/">butchered by Muslim men</a> “with multiple axe blows [24 per autopsy] for refusing to convert to Islam.” Another two Christian men returning from church were accosted by six Muslims who tried to <a href="http://www.charismanews.com/world/31893-muslims-beat-christian-with-rods-for-refusing-islam">force them to convert to Islam</a>, but “the two refused to renounce Christianity.”  Accordingly, the Muslims severely beat them, yelling they must either convert “or be prepared to die. . . . the two Christians fell unconscious, and the young Muslim men left assuming they had killed them.”</p>
<p data-num="10" data-key="ibsam">In Bangladesh some 300 Christian children were abducted in 2012 and sold to Islamic schools, where “<a href="http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Almost-300-Christian-children-abducted-and-forcibly-converted-to-Islam-in-Bangladesh-25745.html">imams force them to abjure Christianity</a>.”  The children are then instructed in Islam and beaten. After full indoctrination they are asked if they are “ready to give their lives for Islam,” presumably by becoming jihadi suicide-bombers.  (Even here the historic patterns are undeniable: for centuries, Christian children were forcibly taken, converted to and indoctrinated in Islam, trained to be jihadis extraordinaire, and then unleashed on their former Christian families.  Such were the Janissaries and Mamelukes.)</p>
<p data-num="11" data-key="ipiyj">In Palestine in 2012, Christians in Gaza protested over the “<a href="http://global.christianpost.com/news/christians-say-forced-conversions-to-islam-happening-in-gaza-79011/#RyZs9RbyHGSZIbWX.99">kidnappings and forced conversions of some former believers to Islam</a>.” The ever-dwindling Christian community banged on a church bell<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07/16/christians-in-gaza-protesting-forced-conversions-to-islam/#ixzz2TJ8HEnrl">while chanting</a>, “With our spirit, with our blood we will sacrifice ourselves for you, Jesus.”</p>
<p data-num="12" data-key="jahfp">Just as happened throughout history, Muslims today regularly “invite” Christians to Islam, often presenting it as the only cure to their sufferings—sufferings caused by Muslims in the first place.</p>
<p data-num="13" data-key="ipamr">In Pakistan, a Christian couple was arrested on a false charge and severely beaten by police. The pregnant wife was “<a href="http://www.assistnews.net/STORIES/2011/s11110044.htm" target="_blank">punched, kicked and beat</a>” as her interrogators threatened to kill her unborn baby. A policeman offered to drop the theft charge if the husband would only “<a href="http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=12580">renounce Christianity and convert to Islam</a>,” but the man refused.</p>
<p data-num="14" data-key="iuawe">In Uzbekistan, a 26-year-old Christian woman, partially paralyzed from youth, and her elderly mother were violently attacked by invaders who ransacked their home, confiscating “icons, Bibles, religious calendars, and prayer books.” At the police department, the paralyzed woman was “<a href="http://www.uznews.net/news_single.php?lng=en&amp;cid=3&amp;nid=20659">offered to convert to Islam</a>.” She refused, and the judge “decided that the women had resisted police and had stored the banned religious literature at home and conducted missionary activities. He fined them 20 minimum monthly wages each.”</p>
<p data-num="15" data-key="ismdb">In Sudan, Muslims kidnapped a 15-year-old Christian girl; they raped, beat and ordered her to convert to Islam. When her mother went to police to open a case, the Muslim officer of the so-called “Family and Child Protection Unit,” told her: “You must <a href="http://undhimmi.com/2011/02/26/convert-to-islam-and-you-can-have-your-daughter-back/">convert to Islam</a> if you want your daughter back.”</p>
<p data-num="16" data-key="ibcne">Indeed, because Christian females are the most vulnerable segments of Islamic societies, they are especially targeted for forced conversions. In 2012, U.S. Congress heard testimony about the “escalating abduction, <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/26/escalating-violence-against-coptic-women-and-girls/">coerced conversion</a> and forced marriage of Coptic Christian women and girls [550 cases in the last five years alone].Those women are being terrorized and, consequently, marginalized, in the formation of the new Egypt.”</p>
<p data-num="17" data-key="amnoh">As my new book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1621570258/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1621570258&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=uhurnetw-20"><em>Crucified Again: Exposing Islam’s New War</em> <em>on Christians</em></a> documents, wherever there are large numbers of Muslims—whether in the Arab World, Africa, Asia, or even in the West—Christians are being persecuted.  Forced conversions are the tip of the iceberg, and certainly not anomalies of history.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Ibrahim</dc:creator>
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<p>Raymond Ibrahim&#8217;s fundamental new book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1621570258/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1621570258&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=villagonlinema00" target="_blank">Crucified Again: Exposing Islam&#8217;s New War on Christians (Amazon USA)</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ATL9ZZQ/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1634&amp;creative=6738&amp;creativeASIN=B00ATL9ZZQ&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=villagonlinemaga" target="_blank">(Amazon UK)</a> , has been widely reported, covered and praised and does not require an introduction, but it prompts a reflection.</p>
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<p>The problem of Christian discrimination and persecution by Muslims is in fact two problems. Like unpunished crimes&#8217; victims who suffer twice, for the crime and for the injustice of the criminal&#8217;s going scot-free, while the atrocities committed against Christians are unbearable enough on their own, the total indifference of the rest of the world adds to the pain.</p>
<p>Floods, earthquakes, natural calamities and man-induced ones like the recent collapse of a factory in Bangladesh attract lots of media coverage and offers of foreign aid, but this does not happen with what Raymond Ibrahim has rightly called &#8220;arguably the world&#8217;s greatest humanitarian crisis&#8221; and Andrew McCarthy &#8220;the great unspoken civil rights issue.. [and] scandal of our day&#8221;.</p>
<p>How much Western governments care about the plight of the Christians living in Muslim-majority countries can be seen by how indifferent they were to the systematic discrimination of which Pakistani Christians, during that country&#8217;s 2010 devastating floods, were victims in the distribution of aid &#8211; essential to survival &#8211; ironically donated by those very same historically Christian Western countries.</p>
<p><a href="http://archives.dawn.com/archives/101428" target="_blank">The Vatican, to its credit, was one of the few to highlight that injustice</a>. I have never heard of a Western government &#8211; or any other, for that matter &#8211; giving aid to Pakistan on that occasion only on condition that a fair and equal distribution was guaranteed.</p>
<p>In Islam &#8220;charity&#8221; has a different meaning from the Christian one, being a duty extended only to other Muslims. This semantic difference reflects that pseudo-religion&#8217;s division of humanity into the Muslim Ummah and the infidels, groups with very unequal status, whereas Christianity proclaims the equality of all human beings:</p>
<blockquote><p>Allah has bestowed His gifts of sustenance more freely on some of you than on others: those more favoured are not going to throw back their gifts to those whom their right hands possess, so as to be equal in that respect. Will they then deny the favours of Allah? <a href="http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/016-qmt.php#016.071" target="_blank">Quran (16:71)</a></p></blockquote>
<p>There are theories that aspire to be scientific and are not &#8211; like many alternative medicine disciplines for example &#8211; and paintings or sculptures whose authors consider art but nobody else does. Similarly, Islam claims to be a religion but it fails the crucial tests for being one: making its faithful better persons and embracing reciprocity, one of the most fundamental, indeed basic, rules of ethics. Hence my choice of the appellative &#8220;pseudo-religion&#8221;, pretending to be a religion but not being one.</p>
<p>Foreign aid could in fact be used as a tool for Western governments and charities to demand equal treatment of Christians and other minorities in Muslim countries as a pre-condition for receiving that aid.</p>
<p>I have once provocatively advanced the proposal to <a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/time-to-give-pakistan-the-south-african-treatment.html" target="_blank">give Pakistan, which is one of the world&#8217;s worst offenders in the persecution of Christians, &#8220;the South-African treatment&#8221;</a>, isolating and repudiating it from the international community, which in the case of South Africa put pressure on Pretoria and played a big role in ending the apartheid. The British Commonwealth, of which that country was part, turned out to be particularly important in this process. Pakistan is also a member of the British Commonwealth, from which it should be banned until it abolishes its blasphemy laws.</p>
<p>South Africa’s bans from sporting events were also used as effective means of pressure, and so could be banning Pakistan from Commonwealth Games, Cricket World Cup, and similar.</p>
<p>The obstacle is, obviously, the political will.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/aidtoaffectchange" target="_blank">British Pakistani Christian Association&#8217;s petition calling for an end to British foreign aid to Pakistan until human rights improve</a> has been rejected because &#8221;<a href="http://britishpakistanichristian.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/foreign-office-report-to-our-petition.html" target="_blank">stopping UK aid to Pakistan will not accelerate progress on human rights </a>and will only make conditions worse for the millions of poor and marginalized across the country, including the Christian community&#8221;, although the organization is still collecting signatures for the petition:</p>
<blockquote><p>We the undersigned petitioners believe that any aid given by Britain to Pakistan should have approriate [sic] accountability and traceability. We urge the Government of the UK to ensure that a significant proportion of the £225m given in aid last year for improvents [sic] to the educational provision in Pakistan, is used to level the diasparity [sic] of opportunity between minority faith groups and the Muslim majority. We call for this disproportionality to be set as a priority before and above overall holistic educational reform. Only 7% of minority people in Pakistan attain an adequate level of literacy and 86%of minority people work as janitors, sewarage [sic] workers or domestic servants.</p>
<p>We also call for the UK to use the commitment to provide aid to challenge the Government of Pakistan to take tangible steps towards a better human rights record (currently 125th out of 160 countries on UN Development index).</p></blockquote>
<p>Another measure that the West could implement is that of giving preference to Christian asylum seekers and immigrants over others.</p>
<p>In April Dutch Members of Parliament &#8220;<a href="http://britishpakistanichristian.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/mps-of-holland-may-consider-special.html" target="_blank">offered to consider special status for Christian asylum seekers and refugees fleeing extremism</a> in Pakistan, after hearing a report from Wilson Chowdhry of the British Pakistani Christian Association&#8221;.</p>
<p>This was also the idea of Cardinal Giacomo Biffi, Archbishop of Bologna, one of the few Catholic high-ranking clergy members with a realistic, non-appeasing approach to Islam. He wrote in September 2000 that, not for religious reasons but purely to favour the peaceful integration of immigrant communities into Italy, <a href="http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/7283" target="_blank">we should favour Christian immigration</a>.</p>
<p>To his motivation we can add the great Christian humanitarian crisis. For two reasons we should be particularly concerned about it: first, the numbers, one Christian estimated to be killed every 5 minutes just for his/her faith, give it priority; second, our particular relationship with the Christian world.</p>
<p>The West owes its existence to Christianity &#8211; along with Greco-Roman civilization &#8211; and in fact I consider the two terms synonymous. Christians the world over are culturally, if not geographically, part of the West: but then the West is a cultural, more than geographic, concept.</p>
<p>So, although we should be concerned about all, not just Christian, oppressed peoples of the world, I think that we Westerners owe a particular debt of gratitude to these brothers and sisters who are discriminated, persecuted and victims of violence just for being Christian, and despite that they keep their faith alive, the same faith that we take so much for granted that we have lost it.</p>
<p>They are martyrs in the true etymological sense of bearing witness to the value of the Christian faith.</p>
<p><em><a href="http://www.enzaferreri.blogspot.co.uk/">Enza Ferreri</a> is an Italian-born, London-based Philosophy graduate, author and journalist. She has been a London correspondent for several Italian magazines and newspapers, including Panorama, L’Espresso, La Repubblica.</em>  <em>She blogs at </em><em><a href="http://www.enzaferreri.blogspot.co.uk/">www.enzaferreri.blogspot.co.uk</a><wbr></wbr></em><em>.</em></p>
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		<title>Radical Cleric Swears to &#8216;Pop America&#8217;s Eye&#8217; if Moderate Morsi Threatened</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Ibrahim</dc:creator>
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<p>American Middle East analysts often claim that Egypt&#8217;s Muslim Brotherhood is a moderate organization, nothing like the more radical Salafis. If true, what do we make of the fact that the most intolerant, anti-American, hate-filled Salafis and jihadis <em>also</em> happen to be the greatest and staunchest supporters of Morsi? Doesn&#8217;t such unequivocal support indicate shared ideologies and goals?</p>
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<p>Consider: A few weeks ago, while discussing the ongoing protests against Egypt&#8217;s President Muhammad Morsi—himself a leader of the Brotherhood—Sheikh Abdullah Badr, an Al Azhar trained scholar and professor of Islamic exegesis, made <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=fzaJ_M_dtdE" target="_blank">the following assertion on live TV</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I swear to Allah, the day those who went out [to protest], and at their head, the [Coptic] Christians—I say this at the top of my voice—the day they think to come near Dr. Morsi, I—we—will pop their eyes out, and the eyes of all those who support them, even America; and America will burn, and all its inhabitants. Be assured, the day Dr. Morsi is touched by any hand whichever, and connected to whomever, by Allah it will be the last day for us. We will neither leave them, nor show them any mercy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Badr&#8217;s &#8220;radicalism&#8221; is well documented. On various occasions he has openly declared on live TV that he <a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/muslim-cleric-i-hate-christians-and-am-grossed-out-by-them/" target="_blank">hates and is disgusted by Christians</a>, that he will &#8220;<a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/militant-muslims-cutting-out-tongues/" target="_blank">cut the tongue</a>&#8221; of anyone who offends Islam (adding &#8220;Let the whole world burn, but Islam not be mocked&#8221;), and that those Egyptians protesting against Morsi are &#8220;mischief makers&#8221; who should be &#8220;<a href="http://www.light-dark.net/vb/showthread.php?p=1040225512" target="_blank">hung on trees</a>&#8221; (a distinct allusion to <a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/muslim-brotherhood-crucifies-opponents-attacks-secular-media/" target="_blank">Islamic crucifixion</a> as prescribed in Koran 5:33). Interestingly, he was recently arrested again, but not for the aforementioned hate-mongering and incitements to kill those against Morsi, but rather for insulting an Egyptian actress on live TV, calling her, among other things, a &#8220;whore.&#8221;</p>
<p>At any rate, under Hosni Mubarak, Badr and other intolerant Islamic supremacists were imprisoned. Under Muhammad Morsi, Badr—as well as <a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/egypts-most-violent-jihadis-being-released/" target="_blank">numerous jihadis</a> who were on death-row for their acts of terror—have been freed.</p>
<p>This alone speaks volumes concerning the behind-the-scenes relationship between the Brotherhood and jihadis.</p>
<p>Then there is radical cleric <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=xjfKNwzYlFE" target="_blank">Wagdi Ghoneim</a>, who was sentenced to five years under Mubarak and banished from Egypt for his anti-infidel hate-mongering—again, only reportedly <a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/notorious-islamic-hate-preacher-pardoned-by-muslim-brotherhood-president/" target="_blank">to return under Morsi</a>. He too is as radical as they come. For example, after <a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/islamic-hate-for-a-dead-pope/" target="_blank">cursing the late Coptic pope</a> to hell and damnation during his funeral, he openly <a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/egyptian-cleric-threatens-christian-copts-with-genocide/" target="_blank">threatened Egypt&#8217;s Christian minority with genocide</a>. Among other &#8220;pledges of loyalty&#8221; to Morsi, he has incited Muslims to wage jihad on and even kill anyone protesting against the Muslim Brotherhood president, portraying such Muslims as apostates who want to see Islam wiped out of Egypt.</p>
<p>Salafi sheikhs Badr and Ghoneim are in good company. Months back, any number of radical clerics went out of their way to show their support for Morsi—including by <a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/whoever-fights-us-fights-islam/" target="_blank">issuing fatwas</a> calling <a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/a-sudanese-genocide-in-egypt/" target="_blank">for the deaths</a> of any and all Egyptians who protest against his rule.</p>
<p>Thus Islam&#8217;s most radical Salafis and jihadis see themselves as defenders of the Muslim Brotherhood, even as Western analysts and policy makers insist there is a deep divide between the &#8220;moderate&#8221; Brotherhood on the one hand, and the &#8220;radical&#8221; Salafis on the other.</p>
<p>Yet the question remains: If Morsi and the Brotherhood are &#8220;moderates&#8221;—or, as U.S. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper once described them, &#8220;<a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/02/10/dni_james_clapper_muslim_brotherhood_a_largely_secular_group.html" target="_blank">largely secular</a>&#8220;—why do the most vile &#8220;radicals&#8221; fully support them? Could it be that the dividing line between them—a line which hopeful or naïve Western policymakers are heavily banking on—is not so stark after all, is not so black and white?</p>
<p>In fact, radical Salafi support for &#8220;moderate&#8221; Morsi is simply a reflection of the fact that the radicals, the Salafis and jihadis—as opposed to many Western leaders and analysts—understand and fully support the Muslim Brotherhood president&#8217;s agenda: the <a href="http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/muslim-brotherhood-declares-mastership-of-world-as-ultimate-goal/" target="_blank">establishment of full Sharia law</a> in Egypt.</p>
<p>And, once empowered, Sharia has no black and whites—this they all know.</p>
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